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  Benjamin Davies criticized idea #2769.

I think so. If Veritula did implement articles, the first thing I’d want is the ability to criticize them; to submit deeply nested counter-criticisms; and to render a label showing how many pending criticisms an article has, calculated based on criticism chains. Which is just what Veritula has already.

#2769​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago

If Veritula did implement articles, the first thing I’d want is the ability to criticize them; to submit deeply nested counter-criticisms; and to render a label showing how many pending criticisms an article has, calculated based on criticism chains.

I agree, and I think here you have inadvertently pointed at a key difference between discussions and articles. In terms of implementation, articles would be a near clone of discussions, except that the articles themselves can be criticised by users, including all the functionality that articles being criticisable may one day come with, like entire articles going dormant if they don’t answer criticisms within a certain period.

A couple of examples: If I wanted to keep and share information on Karl Popper, it would be a lot more intuitive to produce an article on him in encyclopedia style—where I can present information in a hierarchy, rather than creating a discussion and then making each detail about him a top-level idea, which is more chaotic. The same would be true if I wanted to make articles on CR terms—this doesn’t seem very natural to do in a Veritula discussion, but would be very natural in a series of Veritula articles, one for each term.

It also favours this articles idea that implementing it would be fairly straightforward, due to how much could be carried over from the discussions implementation. It makes it low cost to try.

  Benjamin Davies addressed criticism #2767.

Didn’t you want competing articles on some topic? In which case the same criticism applies to articles as well, unless I’m missing something.

#2767​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago

I used to think that articles would need to be grouped in some way, but I no longer think so. Articles will often compete, even if they aren’t about the same or even similar topic.

E.g. an article ‘Easy-to-Vary Explanations’ would compete with an article ‘The Simulation Hypothesis’

Users would be able to point out and connect conflicting articles, but that wouldn’t cause them to be connected by topic, but rather by conflict.

  Benjamin Davies revised idea #2741. The revision addresses idea #2758.

Would ideas that no longer have pending criticisms (perhaps because the criticism chain has been flipped further up) be pulled out of the archive?

Would ideas that no longer have pending criticisms (perhaps because the criticism chain has been flipped further down) be pulled out of the archive?

  Benjamin Davies addressed criticism #2751.

‘Articles’ are functionally no different than top-level ideas in a discussion thread.

#2751​·​Benjamin Davies, 9 months ago

Users may wish to publish articles that don’t neatly fit into a discussion topic.

  Benjamin Davies addressed criticism #2751.

‘Articles’ are functionally no different than top-level ideas in a discussion thread.

#2751​·​Benjamin Davies, 9 months ago

Top-level ideas need to be published to a specific discussion, which will cause some amount of silo-ing or similar dynamics.

  Benjamin Davies revised idea #2750.

Idea: Veritula Articles

Currently, Veritula is a discussion website. I believe it could one day do what Wikipedia (and Grokipedia) do, but better.

A step towards that would be enabling users to produce ‘articles’ or something similar.

An ‘Articles’ tab would be distinct from the ‘Discussions’ tab, featuring explanatory documents similar to encyclopedia entries, and perhaps also blogpost-like content.

Articles focus on distilling the good ideas created/discovered in the discussions that occur on Veritula.

Idea: Veritula Articles

Currently, Veritula is a discussion website. I believe it could one day do what Wikipedia and Grokipedia do, but better.

A step towards that would be enabling users to produce ‘articles’ or something similar.

An ‘Articles’ tab would be distinct from the ‘Discussions’ tab, featuring explanatory documents similar to encyclopedia entries, and perhaps also blogpost-like content.

Articles focus on distilling the good ideas created/discovered in the discussions that occur on Veritula.

  Benjamin Davies addressed criticism #2751.

‘Articles’ are functionally no different than top-level ideas in a discussion thread.

#2751​·​Benjamin Davies, 9 months ago

Top-level ideas in a discussion thread are not standalone pages.

One thing that Wikipedia does well is having a structured, high level page for each idea/subject. This enables readers to get a good sense of an idea quickly.

Right now, to get a good sense of an idea on Veritula, a user often has to study a branching discussion, which can take a lot of work depending on how the discussion played out. A discussion also emphasises things that were relevant to the disagreements that took place in the discussion, rather than distilling the most important elements of an idea into a hierarchy, regardless of disagreements that took place in getting to it (like an encyclopedia entry does).

  Benjamin Davies criticized idea #2750.

Idea: Veritula Articles

Currently, Veritula is a discussion website. I believe it could one day do what Wikipedia (and Grokipedia) do, but better.

A step towards that would be enabling users to produce ‘articles’ or something similar.

An ‘Articles’ tab would be distinct from the ‘Discussions’ tab, featuring explanatory documents similar to encyclopedia entries, and perhaps also blogpost-like content.

Articles focus on distilling the good ideas created/discovered in the discussions that occur on Veritula.

#2750​·​Benjamin Davies, 9 months ago

‘Articles’ are functionally no different than top-level ideas in a discussion thread.

  Benjamin Davies posted idea #2750.

Idea: Veritula Articles

Currently, Veritula is a discussion website. I believe it could one day do what Wikipedia (and Grokipedia) do, but better.

A step towards that would be enabling users to produce ‘articles’ or something similar.

An ‘Articles’ tab would be distinct from the ‘Discussions’ tab, featuring explanatory documents similar to encyclopedia entries, and perhaps also blogpost-like content.

Articles focus on distilling the good ideas created/discovered in the discussions that occur on Veritula.

  Benjamin Davies commented on criticism #453.

The more ideas there are in a discussion, the further the form for top-level ideas is pushed down. Then people don’t know how to submit a new idea and comment on an existing one instead, even if it’s unrelated, as happened with #448. So I need to make this clearer.

#453​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised almost 2 years ago

It might make sense to have the new top-level idea form at the top, in the meantime. Compared to the current design, this would invite the creation of more top-level ideas.

  Benjamin Davies commented on criticism #453.

The more ideas there are in a discussion, the further the form for top-level ideas is pushed down. Then people don’t know how to submit a new idea and comment on an existing one instead, even if it’s unrelated, as happened with #448. So I need to make this clearer.

#453​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised almost 2 years ago

Any progress on this? Scrolling to the bottom to submit new ideas is annoying.

  Benjamin Davies posted idea #2747.

Idea: Discussion specific activity feeds

  Benjamin Davies addressed criticism #2745.

The site isn’t at all big enough for this to matter yet.

#2745​·​Benjamin Davies, 9 months ago

It would be a waste of time to add features that don’t scale well.

  Benjamin Davies addressed criticism #2744.

As the site grows and there is more activity, there would be too much going on for any user to be interested in all the activity on the site, so it would eventually become irrelevant

#2744​·​Benjamin Davies, 9 months ago

The site isn’t at all big enough for this to matter yet.

  Benjamin Davies criticized idea #2743.

Idea: Activity feed should track when you last visited it, take you there when you open it. Currently, someone like me who likes to see everything happening on Veritula needs to go back through pages to find the last thing they saw.

#2743​·​Benjamin Davies, 9 months ago

As the site grows and there is more activity, there would be too much going on for any user to be interested in all the activity on the site, so it would eventually become irrelevant

  Benjamin Davies posted idea #2743.

Idea: Activity feed should track when you last visited it, take you there when you open it. Currently, someone like me who likes to see everything happening on Veritula needs to go back through pages to find the last thing they saw.

  Benjamin Davies revised idea #2740.

Would ideas that no longer have pending criticisms (perhaps because the criticism chain has been flipped further up), be pulled out of the archive?

Would ideas that no longer have pending criticisms (perhaps because the criticism chain has been flipped further up) be pulled out of the archive?

  Benjamin Davies commented on criticism #2709.

Could do it only for ideas with pending criticisms. If they have pending criticisms, how important can they be? This has the added benefit of creating an incentive for proponents of ideas to address criticisms.

#2709​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago

Would ideas that no longer have pending criticisms (perhaps because the criticism chain has been flipped further up), be pulled out of the archive?

  Benjamin Davies revised idea #2735.

Idea: Conjecture Arena

Idea: ‘Conjecture Arena’, ‘CA’

  Benjamin Davies revised idea #2734.

Idea: Reason Arena

I like something with ‘Arena’ because it would imply action, some ideas winning out over others, and has a Darwinian aspect to it. Our best ideas are the tentative champions in the arena of ideas, waiting for the next challenger.

Idea: ‘Reason Arena’, ‘RA’

I like something with ‘Arena’ because it would imply action, some ideas winning out over others, and has a Darwinian aspect to it. Our best ideas are the tentative champions in the arena of ideas, waiting for the next challenger.

  Benjamin Davies commented on criticism #2666.

‘Veritula’ is a difficult name, people don’t know how to spell or pronounce it. They can’t easily remember it.

#2666​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago

Idea: Conjecture Arena

  Benjamin Davies commented on criticism #2666.

‘Veritula’ is a difficult name, people don’t know how to spell or pronounce it. They can’t easily remember it.

#2666​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago

Idea: Reason Arena

I like something with ‘Arena’ because it would imply action, some ideas winning out over others, and has a Darwinian aspect to it. Our best ideas are the tentative champions in the arena of ideas, waiting for the next challenger.

  Benjamin Davies criticized idea #2639.

To be clear, if you copy the entire box quote and paste it into a textarea, it will start with the > sign. I just double checked.

You’re saying you’d still want the > if you only copy/pasted part of the box quote, right?

#2639​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago

To be clear, if you copy the entire box quote and paste it into a textarea, it will start with the > sign. I just double checked.

This doesn't work for me the way it does for you. I tried copying the entire quote, and also in a separate attempt, copying extra stuff above and below the box quote, and neither gave me the > sign.

I have tried on my windows computer and my iPad.

  Benjamin Davies posted criticism #2637.

When copying a box quote from Veritula, the box quote formatting (>) is lost.