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Feature idea: selecting some text, then hitting ‘Comment’, automatically pastes a quote of the selected text into the textarea, Telegram style, with the proper Markdown formatting.

#2547​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Feature idea: private discussions only the creator and invited people can see.

#2529​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​Criticized1Archived

Superseded by #2524.

#2526​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

I’m not sure yet, but I’m playing with the idea that the criticism can’t have any pending counter-criticisms by some deadline. Each counter-criticism could reset the deadline to give everyone ample time to respond.

#2524​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 5 months ago​·​Original #2471​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Yes, but bad actors are a separate problem to solve (as you have alluded to in #2513, where you mention “good citizens”).

The problem we are addressing here is giving people a fair time window to respond to criticisms after they are published.

Edit: after reviewing the thread, I see that you were more focused on the bad actors problem while I was more focused on giving people fair time to respond. I believe what I am saying still stands, but maybe it belongs somewhere higher up the chain.

#2522​·​Benjamin Davies revised 5 months ago​·​Original #2519​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Yes, but bad actors are a separate problem to solve (as you have alluded to in #2513, where you mention “good citizens”).

The problem we are addressing here is giving people a fair time window to respond to criticisms after they are published.

Edit: after reviewing the thread, I see that you were more focused on the bad actors problem while I was more focused on giving people fair time to respond. I believe what I am saying still stands.

#2520​·​Benjamin Davies revised 5 months ago​·​Original #2519​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Yes, but bad actors are a separate problem to solve (as you have alluded to in #2513, where you mention “good citizens”).

The problem we are addressing here is giving people a fair time window to respond to criticisms after they are published.

#2519​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Sorry but I don’t see how that solves the bad-actor problem. Bad actors would still be able to draw out the discussion to avoid paying, wouldn’t they?

#2515​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 5 months ago​·​Original #2514​·​Criticism Battle testedArchived

Sorry but I don’t see how that solves the bad-actor problem. Bad actors would still be able to draw out the discussion to avoid paying.

#2514​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Idea: when you create a bounty, you set the amount you’re willing to pay per criticism and a ceiling for the total you’re willing to spend (no. of crits * amount per crit).

Your card is authorized for twice the ceiling. In addition, there’s a button to report abuse. If you’re a good citizen, you’ll be charged the ceiling, at most. But if you’re found to submit arbitrary criticisms to avoid paying, the bounty stops early and your card is charged the full authorization.

#2513​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

If you submit a criticism, you won’t want to wait indefinitely to get paid just because others are keeping the discussion going in a different branch.

#2512​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

I suppose that would make it a bit harder for bad actors because they’d need to monitor multiple deadlines, but they could still submit arbitrary counter-criticisms just in time to avoid paying. Or is there something I’m missing?

#2510​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 5 months ago​·​Original #2478​·​CriticismArchived

… I am getting an error when I try to edit #2479

Editing ideas should be fixed now. (You won’t need to edit this one, though, since I’ve done the requisite housekeeping.)

#2508​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​Archived

That is simply an extension of the fact that solutions to problems don’t come reliably.

#2507​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Then a bounty can go on indefinitely.

#2506​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

I would have it that each criticism and counter-criticism resets the countdown on the bounty deadline. This means everyone involved is given fair time to respond at each turn.

#2504​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 5 months ago​·​Original #2501​·​CriticismCriticized3Archived

Superseded by #2501.

#2502​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Since I am getting an error when I try to edit #2479, I will make a new criticism. I think #2479 is unclear.

I would have it that each criticism and counter-criticism resets the countdown on the bounty deadline. This means everyone involved is given fair time to respond at each turn.

A small downside is that a bounty can go on indefinitely, but that is simply an extension of the fact that solutions to problems don’t come reliably.

#2501​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

The counter-criticism moves the deadline forward again the same fixed amount.

#2479​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

I suppose that would make it a bit harder for bad actors because they’d need to monitor multiple deadlines, but they could still submit arbitrary counter-criticisms just in time to avoid paying. Or is there something I’m missing?

#2478​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

I think definitely worth trying, sounds like fun

#2477​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago

The timeframe to address the criticism should start counting down from the moment the criticism is made, rather than the original post. So it would be a continuous thing rather than a single deadline for everyone.

The OP could end the bounty if there are no outstanding criticisms and he no longer seeks a solution.

#2476​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Yes, that was what I was thinking. Presumably the OP could set their own deadline timeframe too.

#2475​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago​·​Archived

As much as I dislike LLMs, I’m thinking of using them to show summaries of discussions at the top of the page. Summaries would reflect ideas without pending criticisms.

#2473​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago

But then bad actors could always submit arbitrary counter-criticisms just before the deadline to avoid paying.

#2472​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived