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I’m not sure yet, but I’m playing with the idea that the criticism can’t have any pending counter-criticisms by some deadline.

#2471​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Nevermind, this was addressed by #2462

#2469​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Why should reacts persist through revisions?

#2468​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

How do you ensure the criticism is worthy of the bounty?

#2467​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Not if I do reactions on a per-paragraph basis. I think that’s a new feature none of those sites have.

#2466​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

The way I picture it, as you hover over different paragraphs, a reaction button appears and moves between paragraphs. So it would always be clear that reactions are on specific paragraphs. The user would pick whatever paragraph they most wish to react to.

#2465​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Then what does somebody do who wants to react to an idea as a whole? Do they react to the last paragraph?

#2464​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

For reactions to paragraphs, at least you could tell if the content someone reacted to has changed, and only then remove the reaction.

#2463​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

But presumably, the same is true for reactions to ideas as a whole. Reactions would have to be removed for revisions.

#2462​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

It isn’t clear what would happen during a revision. A paragraph might be changed or deleted. Too complicated.

#2461​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

Feature idea: pay people to criticize your idea.

You submit an idea with a ‘criticism bounty’ of ten bucks per criticism received, say.

The amount should be arbitrarily customizable.

#2459​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 5 months ago​·​Original #2442​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

I could implement reactions on a per-paragraph basis.

#2458​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

There’s value in others being able to react as well. Maybe an idea affects them in some way or they want to voice support.

#2457​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

There’s value in reacting to top-level ideas, too.

#2456​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Fixed as of recently. Emails now quote the parent idea.

#2443​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

Feature idea: pay people to criticize your idea.

You submit an idea with a ‘criticism bounty’ of ten bucks per criticism received, say.

#2442​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

I notice that when I amend a criticism I have made, I’m not able to see what I am criticising. It would be good if the edit screen showed the comment I am disagreeing with similar to how it does when I first go to write a criticism.

#2430​·​Benjamin Davies revised 5 months ago​·​Original #2429​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

I notice that when I amend a criticism I have made, I’m not able to see what I am criticising. It would be good if the edit screen showed the comment I am disagreeing with similar to how it does when I first go to write a criticism.

#2429​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago​·​Criticized1Archived

Veritula cautions against making multiple points at once so as to avoid ‘bulk criticism’. But people can write as much as they want in a single idea. For example, you can find several long-form articles in ‘How Does Veritula Work?’. It just depends on how confident people are in their ideas, and how much they have practiced using Veritula.

#2357​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago​·​Criticism

I would also consider financially supporting someone who gave me good reason to think they had the vision, the motivation, and the technical skill to create it.

I’m interested. Let’s continue this discussion privately for now. Email me: dh at dennishackethal.com

#2356​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago

No, I think the ‘Popperian Wikipedia’ idea is too different to Veritula for it to be a competitor. Veritula is primarily a discussion tool. I envision more of an encyclopedia of competing ideas presented independently of each other, with no (or very little) discussion functionality.

For example, on the topic of addiction, this site would contain different articles explaining different models of what addiction is, how it works, etc. Each article would explain the given model from within its own framework, rather than from some pre-approved framework and set of sources (as is currently the case at Wikipedia).

I realise “methods of criticism” in my reply above may have confused that somewhat.

I think my idea could be made within Veritula, if you would be interested. Different explanations could be cataloged in Wikipedia-style articles (with versioning), which could then be referred to and discussed in threads here. Maybe we should open a discussion for this potential feature?

At the end of the day, I think something like that should exist in the world, and I am indifferent to how it might come about. It wouldn’t bother me if I wasn’t involved. I would also consider financially supporting someone who gave me good reason to think they had the vision, the motivation, and the technical skill to create it.

#2353​·​Benjamin Davies revised 5 months ago​·​Original #2350

No, I think the ‘Popperian Wikipedia’ idea is too different to Veritula for it to be a competitor. Veritula is primarily a discussion tool. I envision more of an encyclopedia of competing ideas presented independently of each other, with no (or very little) discussion functionality.

For example, on the topic of addiction, this site would contain different articles explaining different models of what addiction is, how it works, etc. Each article would explain the given model from within its own framework, rather than from some pre-approved framework and set of sources (as is currently the case at Wikipedia).

I realise “methods of criticism” in my reply above may have confused that somewhat.

I think my idea could be made within Veritula, if you would be interested. Different explanations could be cataloged in Wikipedia-style articles (with versioning), which could then be referred to and discussed in threads here.

At the end of the day, I think something like that should exist in the world, and I am indifferent to how it might come about. It wouldn’t bother me if I wasn’t involved. I would also consider financially supporting someone who gave me good reason to think they had the vision, the motivation, and the technical skill to create it.

#2351​·​Benjamin Davies revised 5 months ago​·​Original #2350​·​Criticized1

No, I think the ‘Popperian Wikipedia’ idea is too different to Veritula for it to be a competitor. Veritula is primarily a discussion tool. I envision more of an encyclopedia of competing ideas presented independently of each other, with no (or very little) discussion functionality.

For example, on the topic of addiction, this site would contain different articles explaining different models of what addiction is, how it works, etc. Each article would explain the given model from within its own framework, rather than from some pre-approved framework and set of sources (as is currently the case at Wikipedia).

I realise “methods of criticism” in my reply above may have confused that somewhat.

I think my idea could be made within Veritula, if you would be interested. Different explanations could be cataloged in Wikipedia-style articles (with versioning), which could then be referred to and discussed in threads here.

At the end of that day, I think something like that should exist in the world, and I am indifferent to how it might come about. It wouldn’t bother me if I wasn’t involved. I would also consider financially supporting someone who gave me good reason to think they had the vision, the motivation, and the technical skill to create it.

#2350​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago​·​Criticized1

I’m happy to have you and for your contributions, but I have to ask: do you see yourself building a Veritula competitor at some point in the future?

#2333​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 5 months ago

I’m curious btw, how did you hear about Veritula?

I believe I came across it while exploring your blog. My ‘Popperian Wikipedia’ idea was particularly sharp in my mind in that moment, so I was very excited to see how you had set things up here. I think a tremendous amount of it is transferable.

#2315​·​Benjamin Davies, 5 months ago