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Ration … has pretty indirect relation with the common sense.

That’s fine. Common sense is often found to be wrong upon closer inspection. It’s rationality that helps us seek truth. Common sense says the sun rotates around the earth; rationality helped us understand why that isn’t the case.

#4621​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4619​·​Criticism

How rationality will help you to stand the right up, and do the thing?

If you’re asking how rationality will help you figure out the right course of action: using the process outlined in #4471.

#4620​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 days ago​·​Criticism

Ration overrated and has pretty indirect relation with the common sense.

That’s fine. Common sense is often found to be wrong upon closer inspection. It’s rationality that helps us seek truth. Common sense says the sun rotates around the earth; rationality helped us understand why that isn’t the case.

#4619​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 days ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

pretty often

So not all the time.

#4618​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 days ago​·​Criticism

I see no perspective in communication with ones who found it discomfortable to retrospect frames of own perspective.

That isn’t what’s happening here. There are dozens of examples on V of me being self-critical.

You’re being passive aggressive, which further sabotages debate. You also ignored my request to take a break for a day or two, and to be less spammy (I just opened V to 16 new notifications from you after a short amount of time), contrary to your own statement that you see no point in discussing with me – which makes no sense.

I’m locking your account for a week. You may return in 7 days. If you then continue disregarding the forum rules, I will ban you permanently. Review them here: #4460

#4613​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 days ago​·​Criticism

freedom of association

It doesn't appears out of nowhere. Freedom is the consequence of an ability to withstand, the power, resources to elaborate and protect such consensus, and maintain it. If you are ready to pay the price, and have the resources.

#4612​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4611

freedom of association

It doesn't appears out of nowhere. Freedom is the consequence of an ability to withstand, the power, resources to elaborate and protect such consensus, and maintain it.

#4611​·​Yurii Pytomets, 9 days ago

But you’re not at war all the time.

It depend on the perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains are real and the space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But constrains are still here locally (e.g. limited time and cognitive/computational complexity/energy). Also, each consensus have a price to be established, and an infrastructural tax to work.

#4609​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It depend on the perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains are real and the space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But constrains is still here locally (e.g. limited time and cognitive/computational complexity/energy). Also, each consensus have a price to be established, and an infrastructural tax to work.

#4607​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It depend on the perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains are real and the space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But constrains is still here locally (e.g. limited time and cognitive/computational complexity/energy). And, each consensus have a price to be established, and an infrastructural tax to work.

#4605​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It depend on the perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But constrains is still here locally (e.g. limited time and cognitive/computational complexity/energy). And, each consensus have a price to be established, and an infrastructural tax to work.

#4603​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It's depend on the perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But constrains is still here locally (e.g. limited time and cognitive/computational complexity/energy). And, each consensus have a price.

#4601​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It's depend on the perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But anyway, each consensus have cost.

#4599​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It's depend on perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory. But there's, definitely, a threshold, above which cooperation and synergy -- brings more on the long-term perspective, than costs. But anyway, each consensus have cost.

#4597​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It's depend on perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely on available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory.

#4595​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4594​·​CriticismCriticized1

But you’re not at war all the time.

It's depend on perspective and viewpoint. We are at war, literally, and pretty often -- figuratively, each of us. So the constrains is real and space for creativity and "freedom" rely of available resources, that would be naïve to ignore them in your theory.

#4594​·​Yurii Pytomets, 9 days ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Enjoy your crystal clearness. Feel free to remove my account, please, since I see no such option. I see no perspective in communication with ones who found it discomfortable to retrospect frames of own perspective.

#4592​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4591​·​CriticismCriticized1

Enjoy your crystal clearness.

#4591​·​Yurii Pytomets, 9 days ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

There's a lot of meanings for this word: mathematical (structural), logical induction, epistemological one (anti-unification aka generalization, abduction). BTW it's interesting: how do you see the abduction: do you have a precise definition in mind?

Could you refer something specific for a brief introduction to the Popper's conclusions, which ones most interesting and important from your perspective?

#4590​·​Yurii Pytomets revised 9 days ago​·​Original #4589

There's a lot of meaning for this word: mathematical (structural), logical induction, epistemological one (anti-unification aka generalization, abduction). BTW it's interesting: how do you see the abduction: do you have a precise definition in mind?

Could you refer something specific for a brief introduction to the Popper's conclusions, which ones most interesting and important from your perspective?

#4589​·​Yurii Pytomets, 9 days ago

If rationality and peace required unlimited resources and time, you’d be at war all the time, because resources and time are always limited. But you’re not at war all the time. So rationality and peace can’t require unlimited resources and time.

They require things like openness to debate, creativity, freedom of association, etc.

#4588​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 days ago​·​Criticism Battle tested

I haven't advocating the consistency. But could you be more specific, which one?

#4587​·​Yurii Pytomets, 9 days ago

No. You’re polluting Veritula with incoherent ramblings. Veritula is meant for serious philosophical work, not navel-gazing.

We have a rule (#4460) against behavior that sabotages debate and progress. Your ramblings are derailing debate. The amount of posts in such a short amount of time is also borderline spammy.

Take a break for a day or two. Be selective about what you respond to. Keep your posts short. And stop rambling.

#4586​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 days ago

There's nothing bad in death. But that's an existential disaster -- to not live.

Do you not see the blatant contradictions in your own writing?

#4585​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 days ago​·​Criticism

[T]here's 4B years of pretty reliable statistics.

This is induction, see Popper.

#4584​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 days ago​·​Criticism