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Need to address the risk of the initiator himself being a bad actor who rejects pending criticisms for arbitrary reasons just to avoid paying.

#3486​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #3483​·​CriticismCriticized4Archived

Need to address the risk of people submitting arbitrary counter-criticisms just before the deadline to exclude criticisms from the bounty.

#3485​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

The grace period prevents abuse from people other than the bounty initiator.
But the initiator himself could be a bad actor who rejects pending criticisms for arbitrary reasons just to avoid paying.

#3483​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

Feature idea: pay people to criticize your idea.

You start a ‘criticism bounty’ of ten bucks, say, per pending criticism received by some deadline.

The amount should be arbitrarily customizable (while covering transaction costs). The user also indicates a ceiling for the maximum amount they are willing to spend.

There could then be a page for bounties at /bounties. And a page listing a user’s bounties at /:username/bounties.

When starting a bounty, the user indicates terms such as what kinds of criticism they want. This way, they avoid having to pay people pointing out typos, say.

Anyone can start a bounty on any idea. There can only be one bounty per idea at a time.

To ensure a criticism is worthy of the bounty, the initiator gets a grace period of 24 hours at the end to review pending criticisms. They may even award a bounty to problematic criticisms, at their discretion. Inaction automatically awards the bounty to all pending criticisms at the end of the grace period. If doing so would exceed the ceiling, more recent criticisms do not get the bounty.

#3481​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #2442​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Feature idea: pay people to criticize your idea.

You submit an idea with a ‘criticism bounty’ of ten bucks per pending criticism received, say.

The amount should be arbitrarily customizable (while covering transaction costs).

There could then be a page for bounties at /bounties. And a page listing a user’s bounties at /:username/bounties.

When starting a bounty, the user indicates terms such as what kinds of criticism they want. This way, they avoid having to pay people pointing out typos, say.

Anyone can start a bounty on any idea. There can only be one bounty per idea at a time.

#3476​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #2442​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

The initiator of the bounty could choose a ceiling for the total they are willing to spend. They could additionally specify the amount per pending criticism.

For example, a user would indicate that they are willing to spend a total of $100 at $10 per criticism.

#3472​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #3421​·​Criticized1Archived

Rather than set a fixed amount for each pending criticism (#3421), the ceiling could be divided among all unproblematic criticisms equally.

#3470​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #3424​·​Criticized1Archived

That could result in amounts too small to cover transaction costs.

#3467​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

There could be a grace period. For example, 24 hours after the bounty ends, no new criticisms can be posted on the bountied idea. That way, the bounty initiator have time to review pending criticisms.

#3465​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #3459​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

and others

If others can still participate, it’s not really a grace period.

#3462​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

What happens if they neglect to review pending criticisms?

#3460​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

There could be a grace period. For example, 24 hours after the bounty ends, no new criticisms can be posted on the bountied idea. That way, the bounty initiator and others have time to review pending criticisms.

#3459​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

What if every criticism on the bountied idea creates a separate authorization? The bounty initiator would add their card on file and then every time someone submits a criticism, the card is authorized for the per-criticism amount.

#3456​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

Who wants that hassle?

#3453​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

People who have submitted criticisms hope to get paid. They have an incentive to submit arbitrary counter-criticisms to others’ criticisms to increase their own share of the pie.

#3449​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #3448​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

If they have submitted criticisms, they may get paid. So they have an incentive to submit arbitrary counter-criticisms to others’ criticisms.

#3448​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Feature idea: pay people to criticize your idea.

You submit an idea with a ‘criticism bounty’ of ten bucks per criticism received, say.

The amount should be arbitrarily customizable.

There could then be a page for bounties at /bounties. And a page listing a user’s bounties at /:username/bounties.

When starting a bounty, the user indicates terms such as what kinds of criticism they want. This way, they avoid having to pay people pointing out typos, say.

#3444​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #2442​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Rather than set a fixed amount for each unproblematic criticism (#3421), the ceiling could be divided among all unproblematic criticisms equally.

#3442​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #3424​·​Criticized1Archived

That doesn’t address the possibility of others submitting arbitrary criticisms just before the deadline.

#3440​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

Could offer refunds.

#3438​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

What if Veritula charges the card immediately and holds the funds?

#3436​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Couldn’t I let the initial authorization expire and then re-authorize the card?

#3433​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #3432​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Couldn’t I re-authorize the card?

#3432​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

But that would mean that the first criticism receives a payout at the same time the last criticism receives a payout. That creates an incentive to ignore new bounties in favor of older ones.

#3430​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 9 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized2Archived

Unlike #3424, however, having a set amount per criticisms means there’s zero incentive for anyone to submit more criticisms, whereas divvying up the amount among criticisms means the incentive is gradually reduced, and it’s up to people to decide for themselves whether contributions are still worth making.

#3428​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 9 months ago​·​Original #3425​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived