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#2885​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​Archived

Since users are able to revise other users’ ideas, why is it standard practice on Veritula to submit trivial improvements to ideas (such as correction of typos, poor grammar and redundancies) as criticisms, rather than directly revising the idea itself? Example: #2865

Perhaps I have misunderstood the intention of enabling users to revise other people’s ideas.

#2884​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Continuing on from #2882, would it make sense to enable users to criticise the discussion/entry/topic, such that it would render a criticism pill?

#2883​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​Archived

If ‘discussions’ take on a broader form, like we have discussed up to #2880, would this change? What if a user wishes to express that they take issue with something written in the entry/topic body text? I suppose they would quote it in their top-level criticism.

#2882​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​Archived

Given #2877, will this still be the case?

#2881​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

So I’m open to replacing the word ‘discussion’ with a more general word. It should still communicate a sort of ‘grouping’ of ideas but need not be as narrow as ‘discussion’. Would that help?

Certainly. I think this makes a lot sense.

I think ‘entry’ is my favourite of the ones you mentioned (and of some others I explored with Gemini). ‘Topic’ is also alright, but seems more leading than ‘entry’. I like ‘entry’ because it seems the most agnostic to user intent, while also working fine with UI elements.

#2880​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​Archived

Note: Discussions with outstanding top-level criticisms do not render a 'criticised' pill like ideas with outstanding criticisms do.

#2857​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​Criticized1Archived

Since discussions themselves are criticisable, is there anything wrong with just titling a discussion 'Karl Popper' and then putting the equivalent of an encyclopedia article in the about section? That is functionally identical to what an article would be, but I am interested if you would prefer discussions not be used that way.

#2856​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​Criticized3Archived

I just realised that it is possible to publish a top-level idea as a 'criticism' in a discussion, in the way I have advocated an article would be criticisable. I am struggling to understand what it means to criticise a discussion. @dennis-hackethal* may you please explain this?

#2855​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​Criticized1Archived

This would work fine for discussion-specific or idea-specific activity feeds, even at scale.

#2854​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​CriticismArchived

I noticed that the idea count of some discussions in the Discussions page seem to be inaccurate. In the Keeping Tidy discussion, I count 13 ideas, including revisions, while the listing for it on Discussions says it contains 17.

#2853​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived

Interview published today, with one of the founders of Wikipedia:
https://youtu.be/8-0vUZ0hTK4?si=Szd_nS4UvCy9Mifi

He argues, like I do, that Wikipedia should allow multiple competing articles on each topic.

I partly agree with him on other problems he identifies, but unfortunately he doesn’t come at it from a Popperian angle.

#2851​·​Benjamin Davies revised 6 months ago​·​Original #2850​·​Archived

Interview published today, with one of the founders of Wikipedia:
https://youtu.be/8-0vUZ0hTK4?si=Szd_nS4UvCy9Mifi

I agree with him on many of the problems he identifies, but he doesn’t come at it from a Popperian angle like I do. He argues, like I do, that Wikipedia should allow multiple competing articles on each topic.

#2850​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​Criticized1Archived

This leads me to believe that my untidiness may have to do with physiological lethargy, and that increasing availability of biological energy may contribute to a solution to it.

#2848​·​Benjamin DaviesOP revised 6 months ago​·​Original #2834

What is wrong with Pokemon? 😂

#2843​·​Benjamin Davies, 6 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1Archived
#2842​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 6 months ago

I think part of the problem is that I don’t have a dedicated final place where everything lives. I think creating and designating these spaces would go a long way, as I wouldn’t need to work out a place to put every item each time.

#2840​·​Benjamin DaviesOP revised 6 months ago​·​Original #2838

I think part of the problem is that I don’t have a dedicated final place where everything lives. I think creating and designating these spaces would go a long way, as I wouldn’t need to work out a place to put every item each time.

#2839​·​Benjamin DaviesOP revised 6 months ago​·​Original #2838​·​Criticized1

I think part of the problem is that I don’t have a dedicated finally place where everything lives. I think creating and designating these spaces would go a long way, as I wouldn’t need to work out a place to put every item each time.

#2838​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 6 months ago

It may be the case that food and dopaminergic substances decrease my threshold for what problems I feel are interesting enough to tackle at a given moment, including tidying up.

#2836​·​Benjamin DaviesOP revised 6 months ago​·​Original #2835

It may be that case that food and dopaminergic substances decrease my threshold for what problems I feel are interesting enough to tackle at a given moment, including tidying up.

#2835​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 6 months ago​·​Criticized1

This leads me to believe that my untidiness may have to do with physiological lethargy, and that increasing availability of biological energy may contribute to a solution it.

#2834​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 6 months ago​·​Criticized2

I notice that I tend to work harder at being tidy when I am well fed, or have consumed dopaminergic substances like nicotine.

#2833​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 6 months ago

I’ve noticed that I have no problem keeping shared spaces tidy, which I suspect is driven by inexplicit ideas related to maintaining relationships, rather than understanding the underlying value in maintaining a tidy space.

#2832​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 6 months ago​·​Criticized1

I struggle keeping my private spaces as tidy as I would like.

#2831​·​Benjamin DaviesOP, 6 months ago