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Logically, yes. But in practice, it won’t be the same.

For example:

Idea A: ‘Newtonian gravity is true.’ → Has pending criticisms (some predictions don’t match observation).
Idea B: ‘Newtonian gravity is not true.’ → Also has pending criticisms: ‘Not helpful’; ‘Doesn’t tell us how gravity works’; etc.

Related: https://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/2014/08/simple-refutation-of-the-bayesian-philosophy-of-science/

#5095​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

Maybe I’m misunderstanding you, but if somebody suggests some system they can’t put into practice, then the system is no good.

#5094​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticism

This sounds like a version of #2195, see criticism #2198.

#5093​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticism

Then the idea ‘I could either address that pending criticism or, if I fail to do that, look into all the other pending criticisms’ would have no pending criticisms.

#5092​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticism

Now also available on PhilPapers: https://philpapers.org/archive/HACTSO-6.pdf

#5084​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

I’ve formalized some of these ideas in my first paper, ‘The Structure of Rational Thought’.

https://www.academia.edu/170297518/The_Structure_of_Rational_Thought

#5083​·​Dennis HackethalOP, about 2 months ago

I usually get conspiracy vibes from anti-fluoride sources, but I haven’t looked into it much.

#5080​·​Dennis Hackethal, 2 months ago

Indeed. And this is one of the reasons the cynics are wrong. They think true ideas couldn’t be improved further. This worries them because they want unbounded progress. So they conclude our ideas can never be 100% true. Not only is that motivated reasoning but, as you’ve just said, true ideas can still be improved anyway.

#5072​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago

Like, the criticism flag isn’t just for factual errors, if that’s what you mean.

#5068​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago

If you think his comment won’t work as a solution for AGI, then his comment is erroneous from that POV.

#5067​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago

May have found a solution to my salt problem: https://www.instagram.com/p/DZ5cCwQFOtp/

The Kirin Electric Salt Spoon. CNET wrote an article about it: https://www.cnet.com/home/kitchen-and-household/we-tested-an-electric-salt-spoon-that-might-help-you-stick-to-your-low-sodium-diet/

It basically works by using electric signals to trick your brain into thinking it’s tasting salt.

#5064​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago

If this is intended to answer my criticism, shouldn’t it be marked as a counter-criticism?

#5063​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

“definitively defined” sounds tautological.

#5062​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

You’ve submitted several criticisms in one idea. It’s in your interest to avoid doing that because you make yourself vulnerable to what we call ‘bulk criticism’. See #4471.

I may have more criticisms but I can’t really submit them productively until you split up your idea.

#5061​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Please work on your tone. You’re mixing in personal accusations rather than just sticking with impersonal arguments. For example: “apparently insisting”, “pedantic”, and also a hidden accusation that I have an ulterior motive to punish women rather than save lives (“Regardless of whether your real concern here…”).

This kind of tone can derail and sabotage debate. Veritula has a policy against any behavior that sabotages debate. Please review our forum rules (#4460).

New accounts, especially anonymous ones, need to tread lightly and prove they’re worth engaging with.

#5060​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

This is not a valid or interesting criticism of my argument that the apparent dilemma can be resolved through the growth of knowledge.

It wasn’t intended as a criticism. It was a related observation. That’s why I didn’t mark my idea as a criticism. It sounds like you’ve misunderstood me.

#5059​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Please remember to mark your ideas as criticisms whenever appropriate. Although this idea is phrased as a question, it’s still a pending criticism as long as it doesn’t get answered.

#5058​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

It seems odd to me when people argue pregnancy is a loss of authority over one’s body.

A woman had sex. Assuming it was voluntary, what did she think was going to happen?

Imagine someone saying: ‘I ate too much. Now I’m fat. I’ve lost authority over my own body.’ But they didn’t. They got exactly what they should have expected.

I think what those people are really saying is: they don’t like that their actions have consequences. They want to have their cake and eat it, too.

#5052​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago

That sounds right but how is it a criticism of my idea? It’s the ideas the mind evolves that change the landscape, no?

#5043​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Another way to approach AGI? (Very early, preliminary thoughts.)

Say you write an evolutionary algorithm, like the ones that have been written before. Then DD would argue it’ll get stuck because all it can do is explore a given landscape for its best features. Whereas real evolution creates new landscapes.

To address this issue, you subject your algorithm itself to variation and selection, by wrapping it in another evolutionary algorithm. But this approach just kicks the can down the road because now it’s the space of programs that’s limited.

How do you break out of this limitation?

You can’t just keep wrapping your programs in evolutionary algorithms like that because that only keeps kicking the can down the road. It’s like adding more and more entries to a multiplication table. It’s not the same as a multiplication algorithm. But for evolution, the problem is harder, in a way, because not even recursion solves the issue, and the starting point wasn’t as ‘flat’ as a multiplication table. The starting point is already an algorithm, not just a list.

What’s needed, in DD’s lingo, is a jump to universality. But a jump to what kind of universality, exactly?

cc @tyler-mills

#5041​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago

A quale can be recorded and replayed later, arbitrarily many times.

How do you know this?

#5040​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Some people are lactose intolerant, others are vegan.

#5029​·​Dennis Hackethal revised 3 months ago​·​Original #5025​·​Criticism

I’m pro abortion but I have some pro life in me.

Banning the abortion of a zygote seems ridiculous. So does aborting a seven-month-old fetus.

Why not go with: you can abort until the nervous system develops.

Clearly, an embryo without a nervous system can’t be sentient and thus can’t be a person, right? And as long as it’s not a person, it doesn’t have any rights.

According to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK542179/, “CNS [central-nervous-system] development begins during the 3rd week of embryogenesis…”

This idea is for viable pregnancies only. Other considerations may apply for non-viable ones.

#5028​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 months ago​·​Original #104​·​ Battle-tested

Link is dead.

#5027​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism