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HTV isn’t a principle even by your own definition. What on earth are you talking about man.

Even if HTV itself is not a computational task, the decision-making method Deutsch proposes is one, and it depends on HTV. But even if we sidestep that issue and outsource HTV completely to the user, we still run into all kinds of issues. This has all been addressed. No fancy talk about sets or constraints is going to change that.

You previously claimed you’re an engineer. I don’t think you are. You just pasted some code that was clearly written by AI and didn’t even compile, twice.

You talk about ‘sets’ and ‘constraints’ and ‘computations’ but I don’t think you understand any of them. No offense but I think those concepts are all distractions so you don’t need to actually address HTV. That’s why you need to use those big words.

Discussing with you is a waste of time. Again, no offense but I don’t think you’re qualified to weigh in on this discussion. Prove me wrong and submit working, handwritten code for HTV or Deutsch’s decision-making method. I’ll delete any further comments from you in this discussion that don’t contain working code. If you keep commenting anyway, I’ll lock your account.

#3867​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

You criticized your own idea. Presumably that’s not what you meant to do.

#3866​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

From BoI chapter 1 glossary:

The misconception that knowledge can be genuine or reliable only if it is justified by some source or criterion.

That says nothing about absolute vs relative. Stop making up stuff.

#3865​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

with good points

I didn’t say the explanation doesn’t make good points, I said the explanation doesn’t get points.

#3864​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

You could play the guitar and have a well-paying job you enjoy as well.

#3856​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

How can the conflict be resolved?

By coming up with a new option that has no pending criticisms. We can’t state it in advance.

#3854​·​Dennis Hackethal revised 4 months ago​·​Original #3852

What is one to do until they resolve it? Surely it is rational to work to make money... Yet in this case, this requires forcing oneself to do something unpleasant; hence the rational thing to do in this case requires discipline.

Well yeah, acting without a solution is self-coercive. But that’s not a refutation of the idea that problems are soluble.

#3853​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

How can the conflict be resolved?

By coming up with a new option that has no pending criticisms. We can’t state those in advance.

#3852​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticized1

Is the argument that: discipline, grit, drive, tenacity and more concepts in this web are all bad/irrational?

Discipline is irrational because it’s self-coercive by definition. For the others, it depends. Are you being tenacious because you’re forcing yourself to stick to some topic you don’t like? Then it’s irrational. Are you being tenacious because you have an unquenchable thirst for knowledge in that area? Rational.

#3851​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago

(How do we draw ligaments between ideas in different threads?! Is this deeper than merely an aesthetic or organizational function? Hmm...)

Using hash links like you did is fine. But feel free to submit a feature request in the ‘Veritula – Meta’ thread if you have any ideas beyond that.

#3850​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago

This isn’t a criticism. A criticism must point out some shortcoming. Please read ‘How Does Veritula Work?’

#3849​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

But what is the import of the story to the present debate?

That sounds like a criticism. It implies that you don’t see the import.

#3848​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

This isn’t a criticism.

#3847​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

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#3841​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 4 months ago​·​Original #3517​·​Criticized1

So it is a relative claim about an explanation, relative to another, not versus some absolute criterion of goodness.

So what? I didn’t mention an absolute criterion. My original criticism already applies to both relative and absolute criteria of quality (what you call “goodness”).

#3838​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

Similar to a crucial test …

But that’s exactly where HTV differs from Popper. Popper doesn’t give a theory points when it survives a crucial test. HTV does. From BoI chapter 1:

… testable explanations that have passed stringent tests become extremely good explanations …

#3837​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

FWIW, if I was hiring, and I was looking at a resume of someone who always ‘played it safe’ and was very concerned about what others think, I wouldn’t hire them. Whereas I would hire someone who takes smart risks and cares about truth over popularity, even if they have a resume ‘gap’.

#3834​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Discipline means arbitrarily favoring one conflicting idea over another. ‘Arbitrarily’ meaning favoring without resolving the conflict.

You don’t actually know which idea is better, if any, before you resolve the conflict. So siding with one before then is irrational.

Instead of practicing discipline, practice resolving conflicts between ideas and thus finding common preferences with yourself: ideas you wholeheartedly agree with, have no reservations about.

Veritula helps you with that.

#3833​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

skill

Self-discipline isn’t a skill. It’s an anti-skill and irrational.

#3832​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

Should suffering be avoided? Not if it's useful..?

Self-coercion should be avoided, yes. When we coerce ourself, we are not creating knowledge and instead arbitrarily favoring one idea over another. If a part of you disagrees that something is useful, then don’t do it!

You can always find a common preference with yourself. Problems are soluble. Do not act on ideas that have pending criticisms.

https://veritula.com/ideas/2281-rational-decision-making-expanding-on-2112

#3831​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

Just because lots of things are excruciating doesn’t mean life necessarily involves those things. Life doesn’t have to be difficult in this way.

You can find a passion, have fun 100% of the time, and never coerce yourself. (That’s an ideal we can fall short of – if we ‘only’ have fun 90% of the time, that’s still infinitely better than dooming ourselves to a life we hate.)

https://blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/unconflicted

#3830​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

It would be fantasy/reckless if, for example, you were in your mid 40s, had a family to take care of, and had no savings.

#3829​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

Why does it have to be a career? You could try it for a year or six months or whatever. If you don’t like it, you switch to something else. That’d be fine.

#3828​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

You didn’t mark this as a criticism, but it sounds like one. Consider revising your idea to mark it as a criticism. (No changes to the text necessary for that.)

#3827​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism

The questions here are over what is practical, secure and strategic, all largely in the financial sense--or so I think.

There’s nothing practical about working a job you hate. There’s nothing practical about fighting yourself.

Where does one draw the line between passion and security?

There’s no security in not pursuing your passion, and there’s no need to make this kind of tradeoff anyway.

#3826​·​Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago​·​Criticism