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Maybe LLM coders aren't stealing value but instead creating it?

#1411·Amaro Koberle, 10 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

Nice, much innovation

#1408·Amaro Koberle, 10 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

Wouldn’t copyright make LLMs illegal, too?

#1406·Amaro Koberle, 10 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

Copyright just seems so arbitrary to me. The whole edifice of law around it. Why 70 years after the author's death? What's "original"? When is it "my own words?"

#1402·Amaro Koberle, 10 months ago·CriticismCriticized3

I wasn't aware that I signed such a contract when buying a book. I think for the contract to be valid I have to be aware of the conditions, no?

#1397·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized2

Okay well I have never thought of it in those terms. I definitely think NDAs should be enforceable.

#1393·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago

Lol no, I'm trying to understand your point. You're saying that buying a book is a bit like signing an NDA, where I can be held liable for breach of contract if I disclose information. Did I get that right?

#1389·Amaro Koberle revised 11 months ago·Original #1388·CriticismCriticized1

Lol no, I'm trying to understand your point.

#1388·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

So it's not me who's pirating the book that is violating her right. It's whoever uploaded it for me to download it, right?

#1386·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized2

Okay so without referring to current legislation. I understand that it is currently illegal, just like tax evasion, but that won't go far in persuading me that it isn't right.

#1384·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

Why am I violating her rights?

#1382·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

agreed

#1381·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago

Why? I don't get that. She's not losing anything.

#1378·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized2

Am I committing aggression against JK Rowling if I pirate a PDF copy of Harry Potter?

#1375·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

true!

#1372·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago

exactly

#1370·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago

Maybe? Kinda? Not sure.

You don't get to use your knife to aggress on others, that much is clear. So perhaps this can be understood as a right of others to do certain things with your property.

#1368·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago

I can also think of ways this could be misused.

#1366·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized2

I'm not sure, seriously. I'm open to suggestions.

There's lots of things that I think people shouldn't do yet should still be legal.

#1364·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago

I'm not sure it's a good thing.

#1362·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago

I don't care about current law, there are lots of dumb laws. I care about what's right and why.

#1354·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized2

No. I don't expect to find it, but that doesn't make it less true. That's how I make sense of the difference between IP and real property.

#1352·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

The issue is scarcity. Digital money is also scarce since you cannot double spend it. If it wasn't scarce, it wouldn't be money and neither would it be private property.

#1346·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized3

That could be happening though, so agreed that it isn't a good argument.

#1343·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·Criticism

Just that if it was so crucial for innovation then you'd expect innovation to suffer from all the copyright infringement that is going on.

#1342·Amaro Koberle, 11 months ago·CriticismCriticized1