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Force means you get a bunch of people on a jury who don’t want to be there. This introduces friction because they will drag their feet.

#3307​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

I understand that you don’t want to introduce bias, but it just doesn’t follow that jurors have to be selected by force. You can make it voluntary without introducing bias.

#3306​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

“The random selection helps keep all citizens equal.” (Source)

#3305​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticized1

Why would it automatically be an elite profession? Just adjust your selection process accordingly.

#3304​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

“If we make it a profession, we'll still have elites judging commoners and commoners unable to get justice.” (Source)

#3303​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticized2

No, again (#3300), if you make it worth their while, plenty of people will show up voluntarily.

#3302​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

“If we only take volunteers, we'll be perpetually lacking jurors or we'll have jurors that don't represent the general populace.” (Source)

#3301​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticized1

If you make it worth their while, you will have plenty of people signing up voluntarily.

#3300​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

We need jury duty because without it, “we can't guarantee the accused their right to trial by a jury of their peers if we don't have peers available to serve on juries.”

#3299​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticized1

A duty is an unchosen obligation. It’s an expression of mysticism. Immanuel Kant is responsible for spreading this anti-concept.

https://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/duty.html

#3298​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

A population of 1 is still a population.

#3297​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Accounts of the origin of replicators (such as RNA World) involve proto-replicators. By the time the first ‘full-fledged’ replicator came on the scene, it was already part of a larger population of proto-replicators.

#3296​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

I suppose it’s theoretically possible for the very first replicator to exist in isolation until it replicates for the first time. But that’s what it does right away anyway.

#3295​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

I’m using standard neo-Darwinian phrasing. Compare, for example, BoI chapter 4:

The most general way of stating the central assertion of the neo-Darwinian theory of evolution is that a population of replicators subject to variation (for instance by imperfect copying) will be taken over by those variants that are better than their rivals at causing themselves to be replicated.

And, same chapter:

[T]he knowledge embodied in genes is knowledge of how to get themselves replicated at the expense of their rivals.

See also several instances in chapter 15 in the context of meme evolution.

Richard Dawkins’ The Selfish Gene has a ton on rivals (alleles), too, for example (chapter 2):

Ways of increasing stability and of decreasing rivals’ stability became more elaborate and more efficient. Some of them may even have ‘discovered’ how to break up molecules of rival varieties chemically, and to use the building blocks so released for making their own copies.

#3294​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Rivalry means competition, win/lose outcomes. If one replicator spreads, it will be at the expense of its rivals (if any), eg taking up niches that rivals would otherwise have taken up.

#3293​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

That’s fine if you want to interpret it charitably, but that isn’t a criticism. Maybe you’re implying that I’m not being as charitable as I should be. That would be a criticism, but it should be made explicit.

#3292​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

I realize that. I don’t see how that’s a criticism.

#3291​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

Based on what you write in #3270, it sounds like you’re talking specifically about forgiving oneself, not forgiveness in general.

#3276​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

I have an … inexplicit/unconscious preference for removing rough/uneven parts of my nails as soon as possible

This preference is neither inexplicit nor unconscious, at least at this point. You have made it explicit, and you are aware of it, otherwise you could not have written about it. Maybe you meant to say that you sometimes enact this preference automatically/uncritically/mindlessly? (I think those three words basically all have the same meaning.)

#3268​·​Dennis HackethalOP revised 3 months ago​·​Original #3265​·​Criticism

…this part seems entrenched…

Well, both preferences are entrenched as a result of the conflict between them being entrenched.

We could just as well say that the other preference, the one for letting your nails grow normally, is entrenched.

I’m sensing a bias in favor of explicit preferences and against (what you think are) inexplicit/unconscious preferences.

#3267​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​Criticism

If you carried a nail clipper or nail file with you at all times, would you use them instead of your teeth?

#3266​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago

I have an … unconscious preference for removing rough/uneven parts of my nails as soon as possible

This preference is not unconscious. You are aware of it, otherwise you could not have written about it. Maybe you meant to say that you sometimes enact this preference automatically/uncritically/mindlessly? (I think those three words basically all have the same meaning.)

#3265​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Nice, thanks.

Thinking about it some more, I wonder if honesty is more fundamental than some of the other virtues. As I’ve written elsewhere, honesty includes the refusal to ignore certain criticisms. That’s a prerequisite of rationality. Whereas justice, for example, seems downstream of rationality.

#3264​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​Criticized2

I think forgiveness could be another core value. Something like 'when I make mistakes, I will pick myself up at the earliest possible time and keep going.'

This sound like it’s meant to be an example of forgiveness, but I’m not sure it is. It sounds more like an example of resilience.

What do you think forgiveness means, @zelalem-mekonnen?

#3263​·​Dennis Hackethal, 3 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

What happens when you fail to commit to these values?

I think forgiveness could be another core value. Something like 'when I make mistakes, I will pick myself up at the earliest possible time and keep going.'

#3261​·​Dennis Hackethal revised 3 months ago​·​Original #3158​·​Criticized2