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For all ideas, the total number of pending criticisms (if any) should always be shown, even if they are not all being rendered. For filtered parents, I could put an asterisk behind the count. On hover, explain that some pending criticisms may be hidden due to filtering.

A Society Guided by Reason

The same logic explained in #2281 and #2844 applies to ideas across people as well. A free market or free society, by definition, is one where all interactions are based on unanimous consent.

One difference between the market and individuals is freedom of association. For example, when people disagree, they can just go their separate ways. But a single man cannot do that when parts of him disagree; a single man cannot dissociate from himself.

This difference does not change the overall desirability of unanimous consent both within and across minds. It’s an ‘implementation detail’.

As with #2098, implementing an accurate count of the number of shown criticisms gets very tricky once the user starts submitting new criticisms on filtered parents.

For filtered parents, I could put an asterisk behind the count. On hover, explain that the total number of pending criticisms may be greater on the unfiltered view.

For filtered parents, I could put an asterisk behind the count. On hover, explain that some pending criticisms may be hidden due to filtering.

For filtered parents, I could put an asterisk behind the count. On hover, explain that the total number of pending criticisms may be greater on the unfiltered view.

Still, the count is valuable in that it shows how many criticisms need to be addressed to restore an idea.

I could get rid of the count everywhere, even on unfiltered views. That would have the added benefit that users wouldn’t prefer one problematic idea over another just because it has fewer pending criticisms.

I could get rid of the count everywhere, even on unfiltered views.

The displayed criticism count for a filtered parent can differ from the number of displayed criticisms.

But users are expecting a count.

For any filtered parent, the criticism badge could be shown without a count.

For any filtered parent, the criticism badge could be shown without any count.

I have this working to the point that it shows n / m, but getting the counter to update properly when new criticisms are posted on filtered parents is surprisingly difficult – so difficult the juice may not be worth the squeeze.

Fixed as of 27123bd.

Done as of 27123bd.

Bug: as you cycle through a parent’s versions on ideas#show, the children are suddenly not being filtered anymore, and the highlighted idea suddenly has siblings.

Bug when cycling through ‘filtered’ revisions: on page render, no matter how many children/criticisms a parent of the highlighted idea has, only the highlighted idea is shown – that’s fine so far – but the displayed criticism count may be higher if there are criticisms that are not being shown. So there’s a mismatch.

Shouldn’t have more than one criticism at a time.

That in and of itself isn’t a bug if the different revisions leading to the highlighted idea have different numbers of criticisms.

The issue also isn’t that there are other revisions that don’t lead to the highlighted idea.

The real issue is twofold:

1. On page render, no matter how many children/criticisms a parent of the highlighted idea has, only the highlighted idea is shown – that’s fine so far – but the displayed criticism count may be higher if there are criticisms that are not being shown. So there’s a mismatch.
2. As you cycle through the parent’s versions, the children are suddenly not being filtered anymore, and the highlighted idea suddenly has siblings. Now the criticism count on the parent does always match the number of shown criticisms, but it seems arbitrary to suddenly not filter the children anymore.

Bugs when cycling through ‘filtered’ revisions:

1. On page render, no matter how many children/criticisms a parent of the highlighted idea has, only the highlighted idea is shown – that’s fine so far – but the displayed criticism count may be higher if there are criticisms that are not being shown. So there’s a mismatch.
2. As you cycle through the parent’s versions, the children are suddenly not being filtered anymore, and the highlighted idea suddenly has siblings. Now the criticism count on the parent does always match the number of shown criticisms, but it seems arbitrary to suddenly not filter the children anymore.

That it and of itself isn’t a bug if the different revisions leading to the highlighted idea have different numbers of criticisms.

The issue also isn’t that there are other revisions that don’t lead to the highlighted idea.

The real issue is twofold:

1. On page render, no matter how many children/criticisms a parent of the highlighted idea has, only the highlighted idea shown – that’s fine so far – but the displayed criticism count may be higher if there are criticisms that are not being shown. So there’s a mismatch.
2. As you cycle through the parent’s versions, the children are suddenly not being filtered anymore, and the highlighted idea suddenly has siblings. Now the criticism count on the parent does always match the number of shown criticisms, but it seems arbitrary to suddenly not filter the children anymore.

The red ‘Criticized’ label shows how many pending criticisms an idea has. For example ‘Criticized (5)’ means the idea has five pending criticisms.

But if there are lots of comments, including non-criticisms and addressed criticisms, it’s hard to identify pending criticisms.

There should be an easy way to filter comments of a given idea down to only pending criticisms.

The feature wasn’t quite polished. For example, arrow navigation through the dropdown menu was missing. And there were some bugs. But it’s polished now and the bugs should be fixed as of 4ced719.

It leaves room for something, but it’s not clear what.