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At the same time, there is a notion that I want to address that flows from fallibilism, and the reason decentralized 'things' tend to be more truth seeking. Even though a given knowledge has solved problems we haven't yet discovered, we still got that solution by solving a problem we encountered, and we can't solve problems we haven't encountered. When we try to solve a problem, we might find out that we've already solved it, but that only happens after we have looked at the problem.

#2404​·​Dennis Hackethal revised 8 months ago​·​Original #2394​·​CriticismCriticized1

Presumably, Zelalem wanted to delete the idea. Veritula purposely doesn’t have that functionality. In the future, Zelalem, just leave the idea and criticize it for being outdated or superseded or whatever reason you have for rejecting it.

#2403​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago

When we try to solve a problem, we might find out that we've already solved it, but that only happens after we have looked at the problem.

That still means we solved the problem before we encountered it.

I understand you want to stress that we usually solve a problem after we identify it. Your text already covers that. So I’d still just remove the sentence “We can't solve a problem we haven't encountered yet.” because it’s not true.

#2402​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

Right and it’s not.

#2400​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

We can't solve a problem we haven't encountered yet.

Some theories have enough reach to solve problems we haven’t encountered or even considered yet. I would just remove this sentence.

#2388​·​Dennis Hackethal revised 8 months ago​·​Original #2384​·​Criticism

…because all knowledge contains errors.

This isn’t true, see #2374.

#2386​·​Dennis Hackethal revised 8 months ago​·​Original #2381​·​Criticism

Should credit Popper where applicable (with a disclaimer that any errors are yours, if you want to be careful).

#2385​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

We can't solve a problem we haven't encountered yet.

Some theories have enough reach to solve problems we haven’t encountered or even considered yet.

#2384​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Knowledge, therefore, grows by addressing the errors we encounter as we encounter them.

The part “as we encounter them” implies that we address every error the minute we find it. That isn’t true. Some errors take a long time to address. We also have to prioritize some errors over others because they are more important or more urgent or both.

#2383​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

Knowledge, therefore, grows by addressing the errors we encounter as we encounter them.

Remove ‘therefore’

#2382​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

…because all knowledge contains errors

This isn’t true, see #2374.

#2381​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

I would prioritize clarity over sounding poetic.

#2380​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

obviously obvious

Did you mean to say ‘obviously true’?

#2375​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

Fallibilism is the idea that all of our knowledge contains errors…

This is a common mischaracterization of fallibilism. It’s actually a form of cynicism. See https://blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/don-t-take-fallibilism-too-far

In reality, fallibilism is the view that there is no criterion to say with certainty what’s true and what’s false; that, as a result, we inevitably make mistakes; and that some of our knowledge is mistaken at any given time. But not all of it.

#2374​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

Fixed as of v5.

#2367​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

Veritula cautions against making multiple points at once so as to avoid ‘bulk criticism’. But people can write as much as they want in a single idea. For example, you can find several long-form articles in ‘How Does Veritula Work?’. It just depends on how confident people are in their ideas, and how much they have practiced using Veritula.

#2357​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

I would also consider financially supporting someone who gave me good reason to think they had the vision, the motivation, and the technical skill to create it.

I’m interested. Let’s continue this discussion privately for now. Email me: dh at dennishackethal.com

#2356​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 8 months ago

Memes and genes are the same type of knowledge.

That doesn’t sound right to me. Can you elaborate?

#2355​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

Memes and genes are the same type of knowledge. Since we can "let our theories die in our place", as Popper said, we can make faster iterations and expand the environment to which the idea is adapted (including potentially the whole universe). There's no need for correspondence, just more reach and adaptation across contexts.

#2348​·​Dennis Hackethal revised 8 months ago​·​Original #2331​·​CriticismCriticized1

Yeah I could see some knowledge in genes corresponding to certain facts about reality, like knowledge about flight corresponding to facts about certain laws of physics.

#2347​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago

… "let ideas die in their place" …

Popper said we can let our theories die in our place.

Careful with quotation marks. Either match the source (and cite it) or properly indicate modifications – or don’t use quotation marks.

https://quote-checker.com/pages/rationale

#2344​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​Criticism

If America is an option (you mention Austin), the non-coastal Western US could work.

A lot of those states get good water from the Sierra Nevada or the Rocky Mountains.

Those states have either no or low state income tax and largely leave residents alone. (For example, the difference between CA and NV during Covid was night and day.)

Southern NV gets a lot of sun throughout the year. NV has no state income tax.

I’ve heard good things about the area surrounding Las Vegas, though I haven’t been myself.

New Mexico could be good for high altitude (I think).

#2342​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago

I think Lucas is right to reject that fragmentation but I don’t think it happens in the first place.

CR universally describes the growth of knowledge as error correction. When such error correction leads to correspondence with the facts (about the physical world), we call that science. When it doesn’t, we call it something else, like art or engineering or skill-building.

It’s all still error correction. There is no fragmentation due to correspondence.

#2340​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

It sounds like the core disagreement is around Lucas’s idea that the concept of correspondence fragments the growth of knowledge: if correspondence is the aim of science but not of other fields, then that means the growth of knowledge works differently in science than in other fields.

#2339​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago

#2325 serves as an example. I had submitted a criticism which is now outdated and remains counter-criticized. It’s actually better that way because it shows that an error has been corrected, and makes it less likely for others to submit a duplicate criticism.

#2335​·​Dennis Hackethal, 8 months ago