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  Tom Nassis commented on idea #454.

See #449. Since this is a separate concern, not directly related to #337, you’d want to submit a top-level idea rather than comment on #337. The form for top-level ideas is currently at the bottom of this page. I obviously need to make this clearer.

#454·Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year ago

  Nick Willmott commented on criticism #513.

Yes re OR gate.

Re light switches: as I understand it, they either inhibit or permit the flow of electricity. But there’s no information there, let alone processing of information. So the example is flawed, I think.

#513·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

I'll have to tap out sorry. Possibly talking on different trajectories.

If an OR gate is conceived as a computer then the initial post about the brain being conceived as a computer is a banality / an uninteresting syllogism.

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #527.

Well non-existence, by definition, can’t exist, right?

Well non-existence, by definition, can’t exist, right? Rules itself out.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #544.

Inexplicit criticism is good, maybe you can make it explicit someday and we can continue.

#544·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

I’d like that.

And yes inexplicit criticism is good! And not taking infinite criticism is bad. Someone should make a list of understandable pitfalls one ought to avoid when trying to apply critical rationalism.

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #543.

Yes, it should. I am left with no counterargument but a mild sense of dissatisfaction.

(Logan Chipkin)

#543·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

Inexplicit criticism is good, maybe you can make it explicit someday and we can continue.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #542.

To the question of existence.

#542·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

Yes, it should. I am left with no counterargument but a mild sense of dissatisfaction.

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #541.

You mean to the question of existence, or in general? Cuz in general I’d think of it as a criticism.

(Logan Chipkin)

#541·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

To the question of existence.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #540.

Since you agree (#539) that logic is part of philosophy, the law of the excluded middle should satisfy you as a philosophical answer, no?

#540·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

You mean to the question of existence, or in general? Cuz in general I’d think of it as a criticism.

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #537.

Good point - philosophy, then.

(Logan Chipkin)

#537·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

Since you agree (#539) that logic is part of philosophy, the law of the excluded middle should satisfy you as a philosophical answer, no?

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #538.

Is logic part of philosophy?

#538·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

Yes (Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #537.

Good point - philosophy, then.

(Logan Chipkin)

#537·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

Is logic part of philosophy?

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #536.

Doesn’t physics presume the existence of physical objects and laws? Ie it presumes the existence of something physical. So it presumes existence itself. In which case physics can’t be the arbiter here.

#536·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

Good point - philosophy, then.

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #535.

I would think that the solution comes either from physics or from philosophy that comes out of some physical theory.

(Logan Chipkin)

#535·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

Doesn’t physics presume the existence of physical objects and laws? Ie it presumes the existence of something physical. So it presumes existence itself. In which case physics can’t be the arbiter here.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #532.

If non-existence is to mean anything at all, I think that’s it, yes.

#532·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

I would think that the solution comes either from physics or from philosophy that comes out of some physical theory.

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #533.

I would be amazed if that is why there is something rather than nothing.

(Logan Chipkin)

#533·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

That’s not a counterargument - so maybe that’s it, after all.

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #532.

If non-existence is to mean anything at all, I think that’s it, yes.

#532·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

I would be amazed if that is why there is something rather than nothing.

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #530.

Is non-existence really existing if there’s nothing at all?

(Logan Chipkin)

#530·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

If non-existence is to mean anything at all, I think that’s it, yes.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on criticism #530.

Is non-existence really existing if there’s nothing at all?

(Logan Chipkin)

#530·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

Btw I do sometimes wonder if the problem of explaining why there’s something rather than nothing is connected to the fact that there’s a difference between Platonic reality and physical reality.

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #527.

Well non-existence, by definition, can’t exist, right?

#527·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

Is non-existence really existing if there’s nothing at all?

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #528.

I think that’s just a word game.

(Logan Chipkin)

#528·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

I don’t mean it as a word game, I mean it literally.

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #527.

Well non-existence, by definition, can’t exist, right?

#527·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

I think that’s just a word game.

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #525.

I don’t see why nonexistence cannot also be a logical possibility.

If nonexistence is logically possible, and existence is logically possible, we need to explain why the latter has been physicalized in the first place.

(Logan Chipkin)

#525·Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year ago

Well non-existence, by definition, can’t exist, right?

  Dennis Hackethal revised criticism #522. The revision addresses idea #523.

I don’t see why nonexistence cannot also be a logical possibility.

If nonexistence is logically possible, and existence is logically possible, we need to explain why the former has been physicalized in the first place.

(Logan Chipkin)

I don’t see why nonexistence cannot also be a logical possibility.

If nonexistence is logically possible, and existence is logically possible, we need to explain why the latter has been physicalized in the first place.

(Logan Chipkin)

  Dennis Hackethal addressed criticism #522.

I don’t see why nonexistence cannot also be a logical possibility.

If nonexistence is logically possible, and existence is logically possible, we need to explain why the former has been physicalized in the first place.

(Logan Chipkin)

#522·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago

The latter?