Dennis Hackethal
@dennis-hackethal·Member since June 2024
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#2743·Benjamin Davies, 3 days agoIdea: Activity feed should track when you last visited it, take you there when you open it. Currently, someone like me who likes to see everything happening on Veritula needs to go back through pages to find the last thing they saw.
You may want to hit the bell icon for each discussion and at the top of the page listing all discussions. Then you’ll be notified of every activity on existing discussions, and of new discussions.
#2751·Benjamin Davies, 3 days ago‘Articles’ are functionally no different than top-level ideas in a discussion thread.
I think so. If Veritula did implement articles, the first thing I’d want is the ability to criticize them; to submit deeply nested counter-criticisms; and to render a label showing how many pending criticisms an article has, calculated based on criticism chains. Which is just what Veritula has already.
#2752·Benjamin Davies, 3 days agoTop-level ideas in a discussion thread are not standalone pages.
One thing that Wikipedia does well is having a structured, high level page for each idea/subject. This enables readers to get a good sense of an idea quickly.
Right now, to get a good sense of an idea on Veritula, a user often has to study a branching discussion, which can take a lot of work depending on how the discussion played out. A discussion also emphasises things that were relevant to the disagreements that took place in the discussion, rather than distilling the most important elements of an idea into a hierarchy, regardless of disagreements that took place in getting to it (like an encyclopedia entry does).
Right now, to get a good sense of an idea on Veritula, a user often has to study a branching discussion, which can take a lot of work depending on how the discussion played out.
While this is true for most existing discussions, it’s not a fundamental limitation of discussions in general. For example, ‘How Does Veritula Work?’ has several long-form posts without much discussion. It just depends on what kinds of posts people want to submit.
#2755·Benjamin Davies, 3 days agoTop-level ideas need to be published to a specific discussion, which will cause some amount of silo-ing or similar dynamics.
Didn’t you want competing articles on some topic? In which case the same criticism applies to articles as well, unless I’m missing something.
#2752·Benjamin Davies, 3 days agoTop-level ideas in a discussion thread are not standalone pages.
One thing that Wikipedia does well is having a structured, high level page for each idea/subject. This enables readers to get a good sense of an idea quickly.
Right now, to get a good sense of an idea on Veritula, a user often has to study a branching discussion, which can take a lot of work depending on how the discussion played out. A discussion also emphasises things that were relevant to the disagreements that took place in the discussion, rather than distilling the most important elements of an idea into a hierarchy, regardless of disagreements that took place in getting to it (like an encyclopedia entry does).
Top-level ideas in a discussion thread are not standalone pages.
Every idea (including every top-level one) has a separate, linkable page. You can reach it by clicking the link starting with the # sign.
#2756·Benjamin Davies, 3 days agoUsers may wish to publish articles that don’t neatly fit into a discussion topic.
They can start a new discussion with as wide a topic as they want.
#2763·Dennis HackethalOP, 2 days agoThere could be a side pane that stays visible while scrolling content.
No room for that, at least not on mobile.
#453·Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year agoThe more ideas there are in a discussion, the further the form for top-level ideas is pushed down. Then people don’t know how to submit a new idea and comment on an existing one instead, even if it’s unrelated, as happened with #448. So I need to make this clearer.
There could be a side pane that stays visible while scrolling content.
#453·Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year agoThe more ideas there are in a discussion, the further the form for top-level ideas is pushed down. Then people don’t know how to submit a new idea and comment on an existing one instead, even if it’s unrelated, as happened with #448. So I need to make this clearer.
There could be a floating button on the side that takes you to the bottom of the page.
#2733·Dennis HackethalOP, 3 days agoSearch page is getting slower the more ideas there are in the db.
https://veritula.com/ideas?q=&nature=uncontroversial is down from 2988ms to 476. Growing db should now have marginal effect, if any.
#2741·Benjamin Davies revised 3 days agoWould ideas that no longer have pending criticisms (perhaps because the criticism chain has been flipped further up) be pulled out of the archive?
further up
Further down
#2741·Benjamin Davies revised 3 days agoWould ideas that no longer have pending criticisms (perhaps because the criticism chain has been flipped further up) be pulled out of the archive?
Yes
Search page is getting slower the more ideas there are in the db.
#2730·Dennis HackethalOP, 4 days agoAutofocus should put the cursor at the end of an input, not the beginning.
Done for the search input as of 765ba05. It makes sense for that input because the user expects to be able to keep typing after submitting the form. For other inputs, the user will expect whatever default their browser implements.
#2625·Dennis HackethalOP, 10 days agoOn the search page, there should be a button to clear the query input.
Done as of 7a31a68.
Dennis Hackethal updated discussion ‘Does Compulsory Schooling Serve to Liberate Children?’.
The ‘About’ section changed as follows:
Archive of a discussion tree between Dennis Hackethal and Roswitha Kant from the old Veritula website. The creation dates of the ideas were not retained but newly set. The discussion originally took place in German between August and October 2023 and can be viewed in full here.
Reproduction of a discussion tree between Dennis Hackethal and Roswitha Kant from the old Veritula website. The creation dates of the ideas were not retained but newly set. The discussion originally took place in German between August and October 2023 and can be viewed in full here.
Autofocus should put the cursor at the end of an input, not the beginning.
Feature idea: private discussions only the creator and invited people can see.
Feature idea: private discussions only the creator and invited people can see. This could be a paid feature; $2 per discussion, say.
#2312·Benjamin Davies, 24 days agoMe, too. I think Veritula’s design allows for this pretty naturally since the topic of a discussion can be general enough for various competing ideas to be posted in the discussion.
One thing that Wikipedia articles are very good for is providing well-structured information on a given subject. Discussion threads are not so well structured (the order of information is not based on how high-level or foundational it is, like an encyclopedia entry would be, but rather on the nested chronology of whatever discussion happened to take place.)
Top-level ideas can be structured any way you as author want them to be. (Any idea at any level can, but top-level ideas are presumably where articles could live.) The structure of any particular idea can be different from the structure of the discussion as a whole.
#2701·Dennis HackethalOP revised 5 days agoOld ideas can pollute discussions. Like in this meta thread.
Proposed solution: ideas could be archived automatically if they haven’t been revised or criticized in 90 days, say.
Proposed solution: ideas with pending criticisms could be archived automatically if they haven’t had any activity in the past 30 days, say.