How Does Veritula Work?

  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1939 and marked it as a criticism.

I started with looking it up, whether to include the ‘s’ in ‘criticism’ to find that it didn’t matter much.

I started with looking it up, whether to include the ‘s’ in ‘criticism’ to find that it didn’t matter much.

  Zelalem Mekonnen commented on idea #1938.

… we wouldn't act in accordance with an idea that has outstanding criticism.

In #1926, I suggested changing it to “we wouldn't act in accordance with an idea that has outstanding criticisms”, plural. You changed it to singular “criticism”.

You presumably typed this passage manually instead of copy/pasting. I believe you previously stated a preference for manual typing so as to better process what you type.

I don’t think you made this change on purpose. I’m guessing it was an error.

If you’re going to type manually, you should double check to make sure it’s exactly the same, eg using cmd + f.

Or you could type it manually, then erase, then paste. Manual typing is error prone. Just copy/paste. Or maybe you did copy/paste but you didn’t include the ‘s’ in the selection. Either way, there are errors for you to correct here.

I’m not marking this a criticism because I think your change it still grammatically correct. I’m pointing out a potential source of future errors.

#1938​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago

I started with looking it up, whether to include the ‘s’ in ‘criticism’ to find that it didn’t matter much.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #1935.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it is criticized. The idea is considered false until all criticism is resolved. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with an idea that has outstanding criticism. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

#1935​·​Zelalem Mekonnen revised 6 months ago

… we wouldn't act in accordance with an idea that has outstanding criticism.

In #1926, I suggested changing it to “we wouldn't act in accordance with an idea that has outstanding criticisms”, plural. You changed it to singular “criticism”.

You presumably typed this passage manually instead of copy/pasting. I believe you previously stated a preference for manual typing so as to better process what you type.

I don’t think you made this change on purpose. I’m guessing it was an error.

If you’re going to type manually, you should double check to make sure it’s exactly the same, eg using cmd + f.

Or you could type it manually, then erase, then paste. Manual typing is error prone. Just copy/paste. Or maybe you did copy/paste but you didn’t include the ‘s’ in the selection. Either way, there are errors for you to correct here.

I’m not marking this a criticism because I think your change it still grammatically correct. I’m pointing out a potential source of future errors.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #1936.

Say you have an idea, that you take to be true, but at the same time, you understand that that idea has flaws, you haven't come up with a better idea yet, so you act based on this idea.

I guess that's where figuring that out before acting comes in.

#1936​·​Zelalem Mekonnen, 6 months ago

Can you give an example of a flawed idea you think is true and want to act on?

PS: You forgot to @mention me. Again, if you want me to get notified, check the section that says ‘Replying to’ above the textarea when you write the comment. If it doesn’t list me, @mention me.

  Zelalem Mekonnen commented on idea #1898.

What if, at that time, the best idea one has is the false idea?

#1898​·​Zelalem Mekonnen, 6 months ago

Say you have an idea, that you take to be true, but at the same time, you understand that that idea has flaws, you haven't come up with a better idea yet, so you act based on this idea.

I guess that's where figuring that out before acting comes in.

  Zelalem Mekonnen revised idea #1934. The revision addresses idea #1926.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it is criticized. The idea is considered false until all criticism is resolved. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it is criticized. The idea is considered false until all criticism is resolved. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with an idea that has outstanding criticism. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

  Zelalem Mekonnen revised idea #1897. The revision addresses idea #1925.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it receives criticism. The idea is considered false until all criticism is resolved. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it is criticized. The idea is considered false until all criticism is resolved. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

  Zelalem Mekonnen revised idea #1896. The revision addresses idea #1884.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it receives criticism. When it has received criticism and until the current criticism is resolved, that idea is seen as false. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it receives criticism. When it has received criticism and until all outstanding criticism is resolved, that idea is seen as false. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #1903.

The idea is not good if it has outstanding criticisms.

Don’t worry about which ideas are better than others. That’s a remnant of justificationism. Only go by whether an idea has outstanding criticisms.

#1903​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago

cc @edwin-de-wit re ‘strong’ vs ‘weak’ criticism

  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1897.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it receives criticism. The idea is considered false until all criticism is resolved. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

#1897​·​Zelalem Mekonnen revised 6 months ago

The idea is considered false until all criticism is resolved. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea.

To someone unfamiliar with Veritula, this may sound like you’re suggesting not to live according to an idea even after all its criticisms have been resolved.

I recommend changing it to ‘we wouldn't act in accordance with an idea that has outstanding criticisms.’

  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1897.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it receives criticism. The idea is considered false until all criticism is resolved. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

#1897​·​Zelalem Mekonnen revised 6 months ago

We accept that idea as true until it receives criticism.

‘until it is criticized’ would be more idiomatic, I think.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #1909.

@dennis-hackethal* Damn. I didn't know that. But if I understand it, 'few' means not many, and 'a few' means something like five or 6. I have a few close friends.

#1909​·​Zelalem Mekonnen revised 6 months ago

Great, looks like you learned something new. You’ve found a bit of truth :)

  Zelalem Mekonnen revised idea #1908.

Damn. I didn't know that. But if I understand it, 'few' means not many, and 'a few' means something like five or 6. I have a few close friends.

@dennis-hackethal* Damn. I didn't know that. But if I understand it, 'few' means not many, and 'a few' means something like five or 6. I have a few close friends.

  Zelalem Mekonnen commented on idea #1902.

You’ve since made the change to “a few changes” (as of #1894) but I think that change was premature.

Don’t make changes you don’t understand. Take questions literally and answer them.

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/eb/qa/The-Difference-Between-Few-and-A-Few-

#1902​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago

Damn. I didn't know that. But if I understand it, 'few' means not many, and 'a few' means something like five or 6. I have a few close friends.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #1898.

What if, at that time, the best idea one has is the false idea?

#1898​·​Zelalem Mekonnen, 6 months ago

The idea is not good if it has outstanding criticisms.

Don’t worry about which ideas are better than others. That’s a remnant of justificationism. Only go by whether an idea has outstanding criticisms.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #1885.

… made few changes.

Did you mean to say ‘a few changes’?
Do you know what the difference is?

#1885​·​Dennis HackethalOP, 6 months ago

You’ve since made the change to “a few changes” (as of #1894) but I think that change was premature.

Don’t make changes you don’t understand. Take questions literally and answer them.

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/eb/qa/The-Difference-Between-Few-and-A-Few-

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #1895.

Does the ‘a’ mean I made few but significant changes?

#1895​·​Zelalem Mekonnen, 6 months ago

No.

  Dennis Hackethal revised idea #1882.

I went over it first and made few changes. After that, Grammarly recommended that I remove the 'a' before 'criticism' and to remove the 'they are'.

I went over it first and made a few changes. After that, Grammarly recommended that I remove the 'a' before 'criticism' and to remove the 'they are'.

  Dennis Hackethal criticized idea #1895.

Does the ‘a’ mean I made few but significant changes?

#1895​·​Zelalem Mekonnen, 6 months ago

This comment doesn’t belong here. It should have been a comment on #1885. And you shouldn’t have removed #1885. I’ll recover it.

  Zelalem Mekonnen commented on idea #1897.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it receives criticism. The idea is considered false until all criticism is resolved. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

#1897​·​Zelalem Mekonnen revised 6 months ago

What if, at that time, the best idea one has is the false idea?

  Zelalem Mekonnen revised idea #1896. The revision addresses ideas #1882, #1884, and #1894.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it receives criticism. When it has received criticism and until the current criticism is resolved, that idea is seen as false. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it receives criticism. The idea is considered false until all criticism is resolved. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

  Zelalem Mekonnen revised idea #1881. The revision addresses idea #1883.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it has received criticism. When it has received criticism and until the current criticism is resolved, that idea is seen as false. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

If I understand Veritula correctly, we first start with an idea. We accept that idea as true until it receives criticism. When it has received criticism and until the current criticism is resolved, that idea is seen as false. Since the goal is to live a rational life, we wouldn't act in accordance with that idea. We don't submit bulk ideas or criticisms. Ideas (including criticisms), even if related, should generally be submitted separately. Also, avoid duplicate ideas.

  Zelalem Mekonnen commented on idea #1894.

I went over it first and made a few changes. After that, Grammarly recommended that I remove the 'a' before 'criticism' and to remove the 'they are'.

#1894​·​Zelalem Mekonnen revised 6 months ago

Does the ‘a’ mean I made few but significant changes?

  Zelalem Mekonnen revised idea #1882. The revision addresses idea #1885.

I went over it first and made few changes. After that, Grammarly recommended that I remove the 'a' before 'criticism' and to remove the 'they are'.

I went over it first and made a few changes. After that, Grammarly recommended that I remove the 'a' before 'criticism' and to remove the 'they are'.

  Dennis Hackethal commented on idea #1882.

I went over it first and made few changes. After that, Grammarly recommended that I remove the 'a' before 'criticism' and to remove the 'they are'.

#1882​·​Zelalem Mekonnen, 6 months ago

… made few changes.

Did you mean to say ‘a few changes’?
Do you know what the difference is?