Veritula – Meta
#453·Dennis HackethalOP revised over 1 year agoThe more ideas there are in a discussion, the further the form for top-level ideas is pushed down. Then people don’t know how to submit a new idea and comment on an existing one instead, even if it’s unrelated, as happened with #448. So I need to make this clearer.
Reddit is a bit different because they have multiple subreddits/communities, but each community has top-level posts which people can then comment on. They have a completely separate page/UI for top-level posts. And then directly underneath a top-level post, there’s a textarea saying “Join the conversation”.
#1765·Dennis HackethalOP, 7 months agoThat would make idea URLs more meaningful, but there’s something simple and beautiful about the shorter URLs that only have the numeric ID.
Could have backwards compatibility for the short version and continue using the hashtag in the UI. Best of both worlds?
#1763·Dennis HackethalOP, 7 months agoUse friendly IDs for ideas? A ‘mixture’ where URLs say '/ideas/123-first-30-or-so-chars-of-idea-here'.
That would make idea URLs more meaningful, but there’s something simple and beautiful about the shorter URLs that only have the numeric ID.
#453·Dennis HackethalOP revised over 1 year agoThe more ideas there are in a discussion, the further the form for top-level ideas is pushed down. Then people don’t know how to submit a new idea and comment on an existing one instead, even if it’s unrelated, as happened with #448. So I need to make this clearer.
The way IG solves this is by rendering the form in a fixed position. It’s still on the bottom but always remains visible.
Use friendly IDs for ideas? A ‘mixture’ where URLs say '/ideas/123-first-30-or-so-chars-of-idea-here'.
#1761·Dennis HackethalOP, 7 months agoFriendly IDs for discussions would be nice. With automatic redirects for numeric ID from legacy links.
Done as of e6a90e5.
Friendly IDs for discussions would be nice. With automatic redirects for numeric ID from legacy links.
All emails have unsubscribe links, but people shouldn’t be able to unsubscribe from system emails like password resets.
#1753·Dennis HackethalOP, 7 months agoI should revisit this now that I have email infrastructure in place.
Done as of 9c14b22.
#1755·Dennis HackethalOP, 7 months agoNewly added comments keep animating when hidden and then unhidden.
Fixed as of 985430e.
Newly added comments keep animating when hidden and then unhidden.
#1752·Dennis HackethalOP, 7 months agoSee #595. The form for new ideas is pushed to the very bottom of the discussion page. For long discussion, that means users won’t know where to submit new ideas.
Duplicate of #453.
#1136·Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year agoWorkaround: have users email me for password reset for now. Re-evaluate when I have enough users to merit additional infrastructure for sending emails.
I should revisit this now that I have email infrastructure in place.
See #595. The form for new ideas is pushed to the very bottom of the discussion page. For long discussion, that means users won’t know where to submit new ideas.
#1749·Dennis HackethalOP revised 7 months agoEach activity should have a distinct HTML title. The browser history and search results in search engines all look the same…
Done as of 7ef69da.
Each activity should have an HTML title. The browser history and search results in search engines all look the same…
Each activity should have a distinct HTML title. The browser history and search results in search engines all look the same…
Each activity should have an HTML title. The browser history and search results in search engines all look the same…
#417·Dennis HackethalOP, over 1 year agoThere’s a bug where hovering over a link in the markdown preview removes the form and all typed text. Hovering over a link should have no effect on the form.
Fixed as of b555677.
Workaround: have users email me for password reset for now. Re-evaluate when I have enough users to merit additional infrastructure for sending emails.
#628·Dennis HackethalOP, over 1 year agoI agree that Veritula deserves to scale to something huge.
Looking through the history of Wikipedia, I see that its core concept is that of “compiling the world's knowledge in a single location […]”. To be clear, I think the core concept of Veritula is to be a programmatic implementation of Popper’s rational discussion methodology; it then becomes a dictionary for ideas as a result. It’s also less about listing facts and more about listing ideas and their logical relationship (though criticisms do provide built-in fact-checking mechanisms). That said, with enough users, Veritula could become a place with a lot of knowledge.
The linked site traces some of the success of Wikipedia to volunteers: “The use of volunteers was integral in making and maintaining Wikipedia.” So early adopters such as yourself are crucial.
In addition, 9/11 apparently played a role in making Wikipedia famous:
The September 11 attacks spurred the appearance of breaking news stories on the homepage, as well as information boxes linking related articles. At the time, approximately 100 articles related to 9/11 had been created. After the September 11 attacks, a link to the Wikipedia article on the attacks appeared on Yahoo!'s home page, resulting in a spike in traffic.
Veritula could be a place where people break news stories and others can quickly fact-check and improve upon reports by revising them. An urgent story would draw a lot of users to the site, too.
Something like Wikipedia’s arbitration process could be interesting, too.
Something similar to Wikipedia’s page-protection feature to combat “edit warring” and “prevent vandalism” could address the issue of people posting criticisms in rapid succession to protect their pet ideas.
Your suggestion to look to Wikipedia for inspiration is spot on. Thanks.
To prevent edit warring and vandalism, maybe Veritula could have a reputation system similar to that of Stack Overflow, where you need to earn enough reputation before you can edit someone else’s post, say.
#554·Tom Nassis, over 1 year agoVeritula deserves to scale to the size of Wikipedia.
But it never will, unless its users innovate.
How can the global success of Wikipedia inspire Veritula?
I agree that Veritula deserves to scale to something huge.
Looking through the history of Wikipedia, I see that its core concept is that of “compiling the world's knowledge in a single location […]”. To be clear, I think the core concept of Veritula is to be a programmatic implementation of Popper’s rational discussion methodology; it then becomes a dictionary for ideas as a result. It’s also less about listing facts and more about listing ideas and their logical relationship (though criticisms do provide built-in fact-checking mechanisms). That said, with enough users, Veritula could become a place with a lot of knowledge.
The linked site traces some of the success of Wikipedia to volunteers: “The use of volunteers was integral in making and maintaining Wikipedia.” So early adopters such as yourself are crucial.
In addition, 9/11 apparently played a role in making Wikipedia famous:
The September 11 attacks spurred the appearance of breaking news stories on the homepage, as well as information boxes linking related articles. At the time, approximately 100 articles related to 9/11 had been created. After the September 11 attacks, a link to the Wikipedia article on the attacks appeared on Yahoo!'s home page, resulting in a spike in traffic.
Veritula could be a place where people break news stories and others can quickly fact-check and improve upon reports by revising them. An urgent story would draw a lot of users to the site, too.
Something like Wikipedia’s arbitration process could be interesting, too.
Something similar to Wikipedia’s page-protection feature to combat “edit warring” and “prevent vandalism” could address the issue of people posting criticisms in rapid succession to protect their pet ideas.
Your suggestion to look to Wikipedia for inspiration is spot on. Thanks.
#447·Tom Nassis, over 1 year agoHi all! This platform looks like an awesome idea!
This discussion says, "Discuss Veritula itself. For feedback and suggestions."
I wanted to ask about how many members are here. And whether it's encouraged to invite more people, in order to add more and more conversations.
Superseded by #448.