Abortion

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Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year ago·#299· Collapse
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I’m pro abortion but I have some pro life in me.

Banning the abortion of a zygote seems ridiculous. So does aborting a seven-month-old fetus.

Why not go with: you can abort until the nervous system develops.

Clearly, an embryo without a nervous system can’t be sentient and thus can’t be a person, right? And as long as it’s not a person, it doesn’t have any rights.

According to https://www.neurosciencefoundation.org/post/brain-development-in-fetus, “an embryo’s brain and nervous system begin to develop at around the 6-week mark.” And: “At as early as 8 weeks (about 2 months), you can see physical evidence of the brain working (the electric impulses) as ultrasounds show the embryo moving.”

This idea is for viable pregnancies only. Other considerations may apply for non-viable ones.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago·#201· Collapse

If the fetus has "developed a nervous system" but is not yet capable of surviving outside the mother (even with all the technological knowledge of medicine), why should the mother have an obligation to carry it to term?

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago·#202· Collapse

A baby with a nervous system may be a person and thus have rights.

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Dennis HackethalOP, about 1 year ago·#216· Collapse

having rights doesn't mean you get to be supported by others that don't want to support you

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Dennis HackethalOP revised about 1 year ago·#218· Collapse
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It does when those others are responsible for your position. See #133, #138, #172, #203.

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