Attempts at Understanding Fallibilism

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Zelalem MekonnenOP, 6 days ago·#2371

Fallibilism is the idea that all of our knowledge contains errors, and that nothing is obviously obvious but depends on what one understands about reality. This means that we can't be certain about anything, because all knowledge contains errors. Knowledge, therefore, grows by addressing the errors we encounter as we encounter them. We can't solve a problem we haven't encountered yet. We solve problems by guessing solutions and testing them. This also means we should always be careful not to destroy or even slow down the things and ideas that correct errors and thereby create knowledge. Some of which are freedom, privacy, and free markets. We are also never the passive recipients of our knowledge; we are the creators.

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Dennis Hackethal, 6 days ago·#2374

Fallibilism is the idea that all of our knowledge contains errors…

This is a common mischaracterization of fallibilism. It’s actually a form of cynicism. See https://blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/don-t-take-fallibilism-too-far

In reality, fallibilism is the view that there is no criterion to say with certainty what’s true and what’s false; that, as a result, we inevitably make mistakes; and that some of our knowledge is mistaken at any given time. But not all of it.

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Zelalem MekonnenOP, revised by Dennis Hackethal about 24 hours ago·#2544

So there is no way to tell the truth of our knowledge. It may solve a problem, but that doesn't guarantee that it’s true.

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Dennis Hackethal, about 24 hours ago·#2546

You can still tell whether some knowledge is true. You just can’t tell infallibly, ie with absolute certainty. There is a difference between certainty and knowledge.

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Zelalem MekonnenOP, about 23 hours ago·#2550

If you're not certain which part of your knowledge is true, than there is no difference between what I said and what you said. Because you knew that "that" part of your knowledge was true, but it wasn't true as it turns out after further inquiry.

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Dennis Hackethal, about 23 hours ago·#2551

than

Should be ‘then’. I remind you to run your ideas through Grammarly before posting.

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Dennis Hackethal, about 23 hours ago·#2552

… there is no difference between what I said and what you said.

Unclear what “what I said” and “what you said” refer to. Quotes

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Dennis Hackethal, about 23 hours ago·#2553

Since you’re voicing a disagreement, this idea should presumably be marked as a criticism.

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Dennis Hackethal, about 23 hours ago·#2554

"that"

Why is this word in quotes? If you mean to emphasize, use asterisks.

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Dennis Hackethal, 6 days ago·#2375

obviously obvious

Did you mean to say ‘obviously true’?

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Nope, I meant it in a sort of poetic way. "Obviously true" vs "Obviously obvious"??

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Dennis Hackethal, 6 days ago·#2380

I would prioritize clarity over sounding poetic.

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Dennis Hackethal revised 6 days ago·#2386

…because all knowledge contains errors.

This isn’t true, see #2374.

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Dennis Hackethal, 6 days ago·#2382

Knowledge, therefore, grows by addressing the errors we encounter as we encounter them.

Remove ‘therefore’

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Zelalem Mekonnen’s avatar

I think the 'therefore' means that the following point is a direct result of the preceding claim.

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Dennis Hackethal, 6 days ago·#2400

Right and it’s not.

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Please say more? Is it from the content or the grammar?

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Dennis Hackethal, 4 days ago·#2452

The word ‘therefore’ in this context means that lack of certainty is the reason error correction is the means by which knowledge is created. I’m not sure that’s the reason.

And it’s not actually clear whether ‘therefore’ refers to the part “This means that we can't be certain about anything” or to “all knowledge contains errors.”

You can avoid all of these issues by simply removing the word ‘therefore’. Simpler.

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Dennis Hackethal, 6 days ago·#2383

Knowledge, therefore, grows by addressing the errors we encounter as we encounter them.

The part “as we encounter them” implies that we address every error the minute we find it. That isn’t true. Some errors take a long time to address. We also have to prioritize some errors over others because they are more important or more urgent or both.

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Dennis Hackethal revised 6 days ago·#2388

We can't solve a problem we haven't encountered yet.

Some theories have enough reach to solve problems we haven’t encountered or even considered yet. I would just remove this sentence.

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Zelalem MekonnenOP revised 6 days ago·#2399

Finding problems that a knowledge addresses is a form of new knowledge.

Maybe not. Figured that out as I was typing. The knowledge isn't new.

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Dennis Hackethal, 6 days ago·#2406

a knowledge

I don’t think it’s correct to use the word ‘knowledge’ with an indeterminate article (meaning ‘a’ or ‘an’).

You could say ‘Finding problems that some knowledge addresses…’

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Zelalem MekonnenOP, 6 days ago·#2395

At the same time, there is a notion that I want to address that flows from fallibilism, and the reason decentralized 'things' tend to be more truth seeking. Even though a given knowledge has solved problems we haven't yet discovered, we still got that solution by solving a problem we encountered, and we can't solve problems we haven't encountered. When we try to solve a problem, we might find out that we've already solved it, but that only happens after we have looked at the problem.

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Dennis Hackethal, 6 days ago·#2402

When we try to solve a problem, we might find out that we've already solved it, but that only happens after we have looked at the problem.

That still means we solved the problem before we encountered it.

I understand you want to stress that we usually solve a problem after we identify it. Your text already covers that. So I’d still just remove the sentence “We can't solve a problem we haven't encountered yet.” because it’s not true.

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Dennis Hackethal, 6 days ago·#2385

Should credit Popper where applicable (with a disclaimer that any errors are yours, if you want to be careful).

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