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A population of 1 is still a population.

#3297·Dennis Hackethal, 2 months ago·Criticism

Accounts of the origin of replicators (such as RNA World) involve proto-replicators. By the time the first ‘full-fledged’ replicator came on the scene, it was already part of a larger population of proto-replicators.

#3296·Dennis Hackethal, 2 months ago·Criticism

I suppose it’s theoretically possible for the very first replicator to exist in isolation until it replicates for the first time. But that’s what it does right away anyway.

#3295·Dennis Hackethal, 2 months ago·Criticism

I’m using standard neo-Darwinian phrasing. Compare, for example, BoI chapter 4:

The most general way of stating the central assertion of the neo-Darwinian theory of evolution is that a population of replicators subject to variation (for instance by imperfect copying) will be taken over by those variants that are better than their rivals at causing themselves to be replicated.

And, same chapter:

[T]he knowledge embodied in genes is knowledge of how to get themselves replicated at the expense of their rivals.

See also several instances in chapter 15 in the context of meme evolution.

Richard Dawkins’ The Selfish Gene has a ton on rivals (alleles), too, for example (chapter 2):

Ways of increasing stability and of decreasing rivals’ stability became more elaborate and more efficient. Some of them may even have ‘discovered’ how to break up molecules of rival varieties chemically, and to use the building blocks so released for making their own copies.

#3294·Dennis Hackethal, 2 months ago·Criticism

Rivalry means competition, win/lose outcomes. If one replicator spreads, it will be at the expense of its rivals (if any), eg taking up niches that rivals would otherwise have taken up.

#3293·Dennis Hackethal, 2 months ago·Criticism

That’s fine if you want to interpret it charitably, but that isn’t a criticism. Maybe you’re implying that I’m not being as charitable as I should be. That would be a criticism, but it should be made explicit.

#3292·Dennis Hackethal, 2 months ago·Criticism

I realize that. I don’t see how that’s a criticism.

#3291·Dennis Hackethal, 2 months ago·Criticism

My charitable interpretation:

“Less and less possible” is a loose way of saying something like “more and more difficult to achieve”, or “occurs less and less often in the multiverse”.

#3289·Benjamin Davies revised 2 months ago·Original #3286·CriticismCriticized1

My charitable interpretation:

“Less and less possible” means something like “more and more difficult to achieve”, or “occurs less and less often in the multiverse”.

#3287·Benjamin Davies revised 2 months ago·Original #3286·CriticismCriticized1

My charitable interpretation:

“Less and less possible” means something like “more and more difficult to achieve”, or “a smaller and smaller occurrence in the multiverse”.

#3286·Benjamin Davies, 2 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

“([T]hey say)” presumably means he is paraphrasing people who get it wrong.

#3285·Benjamin Davies, 2 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

Why does neo-Darwinism qualify as a strand, if it can be understood as a component of Popperian epistemology?

#3284·Benjamin Davies, 2 months ago·Criticism

Economics is simply at the intersection of evolution and epistemology.

#3283·Benjamin Davies, 2 months ago·Criticism

While a lot of what’s involved in understanding a language is inexplicit, it is not possible to come to understand a language without ever dealing with it explicitly.

This is part of what separates explanatory knowledge from other types of knowledge.

#3281·Benjamin Davies revised 2 months ago·Original #3280·Criticism

While a lot of what’s involved in understanding a language is inexplicit, it is not possible to come to understand a language without ever dealing with it explicitly.

This is what separates explanatory knowledge from other types of knowledge.

#3280·Benjamin Davies, 2 months ago·CriticismCriticized1

… any replicator’s primary ‘concern’ is how to spread through the population at the expense of its rivals.

Why “at the expense of its rivals”? Isn’t the concern to spread at all, regardless of the outcome of rivals?

#3279·Benjamin Davies, 2 months ago·CriticismCriticized2

… any replicator’s primary ‘concern’ is how to spread through the population at the expense of its rivals.

Why “through the population”? Doesn’t this presuppose a replicator needs to exist within a population to do what it does? The first replicator spread with no population to spread into.

#3278·Benjamin Davies, 2 months ago·CriticismCriticized3

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#2338·Dirk Meulenbelt revised 4 months ago·Original #2336

:thumbsup:

#2337·Dirk Meulenbelt revised 4 months ago·Original #2336

:+1:

#2336·Dirk Meulenbelt, 4 months ago

#2325 serves as an example. I had submitted a criticism which is now outdated and remains counter-criticized. It’s actually better that way because it shows that an error has been corrected, and makes it less likely for others to submit a duplicate criticism.

#2335·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago

In your revision, you asked me to let you know if you are doing things incorrectly.

You can revise ideas the way you did, it’s not wrong per se, but revisions are better for incremental changes. They’re not really meant for taking back criticisms or indicating agreement. If a criticism of yours is successfully counter-criticized and you would like to abandon it, I would just leave it counter-criticized and not revise it further.

If you are looking for a way to indicate agreement (with a counter-criticism, say), it’s something Dirk and I have been discussing offline, see #2169. I hope to implement something to that effect soon.

#2334·Dennis Hackethal, 4 months ago

Most people (except in Alzheimer's, etc.) don't run out of memory in the brain. The reason most people don’t (permanently) run out memory (of either kind) isn’t that memory isn’t scarce, but that there’s a pruning mechanism in the mind. And there’s competition.

#2329·Erik Orrje revised 4 months ago·Original #2223

Thanks for clarifying

#2327·Erik Orrje revised 4 months ago·Original #2283

Wait, I've probably misunderstood but in #2228 it seemed like you thought pruning was needed for scarcity, which is needed for competition between ideas and their evolution.

And you equated pruning with the meta algorithm.

And now you say the meta algorithm/pruning is not needed for the evolution of ideas?

#2309·Dennis Hackethal revised 4 months ago·Original #2283·CriticismCriticized3