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And now you say the meta algoritm/pruning is not needed for the evolution of ideas?

Right. Pruning helps it along but isn’t strictly required. You may be misunderstanding natural selection. It is merely “the non-random differential reproduction of genes.” (From The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins.) More generally, it’s the non-random differential reproduction of replicators, including ideas.

In other words, selection in and of itself doesn’t even imply that any individual replicator dies (though in practice, they usually do). It just means there’s a difference in the rate of reproduction between different replicators. That difference arises without any pruning.

#2308·Dennis Hackethal, 25 days ago·Criticism

And you equated pruning with the meta algorithm.

I did not equate them. I said in #2263 that the meta algorithm does the pruning: “When I say ‘pruning’, I’m referring to a specific mechanism of a meta algorithm in the mind.”

#2307·Dennis Hackethal, 25 days ago·Criticism

I went ahead and implemented this feature since it was a good suggestion.

You can edit your discussion here.

#2306·Dennis HackethalOP, 25 days ago·Criticized1oustanding criticism

I started a discussion earlier, and what I wrote in the “about” section of the discussion was not written well. I would like to revise it. Is this possible? If not, is there an intention to make this possible eventually?

#2305·Benjamin Davies, 26 days ago·Criticized2oustanding criticisms

Would it be possible / worth it to produce a competitor to Wikipedia based on Popperian epistemology? Larry Sanger (a founder of Wikipedia) has said that he now thinks Wikipedia should have competing articles on the same topic to allow for the fact that people disagree.

The idea of having a Wikipedia equivalent that presents high quality competing articles detailing different alternative explanations for things (with some sort of versioning and methods of criticism) excites me greatly.

I have thought of producing something like this myself, which was part of what drew me to Veritula.

#2304·Benjamin Davies, 26 days ago

Please see #2298 for a link to an article outlining various other reasons for getting sunlight. Vitamin D is not the only reason to get sunlight (or some artificial equivalent).

#2303·Benjamin DaviesOP, 26 days ago

Thank you for sharing. Skimming his content, I’m not finding any criticisms of the biological explanations I currently hold that reject polyunsaturated fats. I will dig deeper later on.

I haven’t yet found good criticisms of Ray Peat’s ideas regarding unsaturated fats, so those are the ideas I am currently living by.

#2302·Benjamin DaviesOP, 26 days ago

Welcome to Veritula, Benjamin. Yes, the number may need to go up in the future.

#2301·Dennis HackethalOP, 26 days ago

Are you thinking of sun exposure to get enough vitamin D?

To be sure, I’m not a doctor, but because I have very fair skin, every dermatologist I’ve ever talked to has advised me to avoid the sun and instead take vitamin D supplements.

#2300·Dennis Hackethal, 26 days ago

I want to live in places that are mostly sunny, most of the time. This is for health reasons.

#2298·Benjamin DaviesOP revised 26 days ago·Original #2292

You may want to check out Instagram account jacbfoods. He used to be opposed to seed oils, but when he got his master’s degree in dietetics, he changed his mind.

#2297·Dennis Hackethal, 26 days ago

I could have multiple homes around the world that I move between throughout the year. This way I can make the most of geographical and seasonal advantages of different places.

#2295·Benjamin DaviesOP revised 26 days ago·Original #2289

Ideally I would live at some altitude, for health reasons.

#2294·Benjamin DaviesOP, 26 days ago

I want to live somewhere with a more libertarian culture than average. I want to live somewhere where property rights are respected more than average, and people are left alone by the government more than average.

#2293·Benjamin DaviesOP, 26 days ago

I live in places that are mostly sunny, most of the time. This is for health reasons.

#2292·Benjamin DaviesOP, 26 days ago·Criticized1oustanding criticism

I want access to good quality food, particularly good quality meat, dairy, and fruit. Ideally the place I live has a growing culture of eating well (for example, in Austin, many restaurants are now making it a point not to use any seed oils in their cooking.)

#2291·Benjamin DaviesOP, 26 days ago

I want to live close to thriving cities (say, no more than 60 minutes away on an average day).

#2290·Benjamin DaviesOP, 26 days ago

I could have multiple homes around the world, which I can move between throughout the year. This way I can make the most of geographical and seasonal advantages of different places.

#2289·Benjamin DaviesOP, 26 days ago·Criticized1oustanding criticism

I want superior water quality for drinking, bathing, etc.

This means I need to live somewhere sufficiently advanced to be able to provide and service high quality reverse-osmosis water filters. Otherwise I would need to be somewhere that I can directly access spring water, which I think is much more difficult.

#2288·Benjamin DaviesOP, 26 days ago

Will the criterion for “battle tested” change as the site grows? If the purpose of this feature is to enable users to quickly see the best ideas on the site, I would imagine the number of addressed criticisms needed to count as “battle tested” would need to grow with the site. @dennis-hackethal

#2286·Benjamin Davies revised 26 days ago·Original #2285

Will the criterion for “battle tested” change as the site grows? If the purpose of this feature is to enable users to quickly see the best ideas on the site, I would imagine the number of addressed criticisms needed to count as “battle tested” would need to grow with the site.

#2285·Benjamin Davies, 26 days ago·Criticized1oustanding criticism

Guess: We can generalise economics further and let it be subsumed by epistemology.

When we choose to try to solve certain problems, we always make trade-offs from a place of scarcity. Likewise, our conjectures wouldn't evolve without the competition enabled by scarcity in our minds.

#2284·Erik Orrje, 26 days ago·Criticism

Wait, I've probably misunderstood but in #2228 it seemed like you thought pruning was needed for scarcity, which is needed for competition between ideas and their evolution.

And you equated pruning with the meta algorithm.

And now you say the meta algoritm/pruning is not needed for the evolution of ideas?

#2283·Erik Orrje, 26 days ago·CriticismCriticized3oustanding criticisms

Rational Decision-Making

Expanding on #2112

If an idea, as written, has no pending criticisms, it’s rational to adopt it and irrational to reject it. What reason could you have to reject it? If it has no pending criticisms, then either 1) no reasons to reject it (ie, criticisms) have been suggested or 2) all suggested reasons have been addressed already.

If an idea, as written, does have pending criticisms, it’s irrational to adopt it and rational to reject it – by reference to those criticisms. What reason could you have to ignore the pending criticisms and adopt it anyway?

#2281·Dennis HackethalOP revised 26 days ago·Original #2117· Battle tested

Rational Decision-Making

Expanding on #2112

If an idea has no pending criticisms, it’s rational to adopt it and irrational to reject it. What reason could you have to reject it? If it has no pending criticisms, then either 1) no reasons to reject it (ie, criticisms) have been suggested or 2) all suggested reasons have been addressed already.

If an idea does have pending criticisms, it’s irrational to adopt it and rational to reject it – by reference to those criticisms. What reason could you have to ignore the pending criticisms and adopt it anyway?

#2279·Dennis HackethalOP revised 26 days ago·Original #2117·Criticized1oustanding criticism