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You mean to the question of existence, or in general? Cuz in general I’d think of it as a criticism.

(Logan Chipkin)

#541 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · CriticismCriticized1 criticim(s)

Since you agree (#539) that logic is part of philosophy, the law of the excluded middle should satisfy you as a philosophical answer, no?

#540 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · Criticism

Yes (Logan Chipkin)

#539 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago

Is logic part of philosophy?

#538 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago

Good point - philosophy, then.

(Logan Chipkin)

#537 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · CriticismCriticized1 criticim(s)

Doesn’t physics presume the existence of physical objects and laws? Ie it presumes the existence of something physical. So it presumes existence itself. In which case physics can’t be the arbiter here.

#536 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · Criticism

I would think that the solution comes either from physics or from philosophy that comes out of some physical theory.

(Logan Chipkin)

#535 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · CriticismCriticized1 criticim(s)

That’s not a counterargument - so maybe that’s it, after all.

(Logan Chipkin)

#534 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · Criticism

I would be amazed if that is why there is something rather than nothing.

(Logan Chipkin)

#533 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · CriticismCriticized1 criticim(s)

If non-existence is to mean anything at all, I think that’s it, yes.

#532 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · Criticism Battle tested

Btw I do sometimes wonder if the problem of explaining why there’s something rather than nothing is connected to the fact that there’s a difference between Platonic reality and physical reality.

(Logan Chipkin)

#531 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago

Is non-existence really existing if there’s nothing at all?

(Logan Chipkin)

#530 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · CriticismCriticized1 criticim(s)

I don’t mean it as a word game, I mean it literally.

#529 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · Criticism

I think that’s just a word game.

(Logan Chipkin)

#528 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · CriticismCriticized1 criticim(s)

Well non-existence, by definition, can’t exist, right?

#527 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · CriticismCriticized1 criticim(s)

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#526 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · Criticism

I don’t see why nonexistence cannot also be a logical possibility.

If nonexistence is logically possible, and existence is logically possible, we need to explain why the latter has been physicalized in the first place.

(Logan Chipkin)

#525 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · revision of #522 · CriticismCriticized2 criticim(s)

Sorry yes

(Logan Chipkin)

#524 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago

The latter?

#523 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · Criticism

I don’t see why nonexistence cannot also be a logical possibility.

If nonexistence is logically possible, and existence is logically possible, we need to explain why the former has been physicalized in the first place.

(Logan Chipkin)

#522 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · CriticismCriticized2 criticim(s)

What do you think of: it’s the law of the excluded middle that causes the universe to exist. Nothing can’t exist, so the only alternative that’s left is for something to exist.

#521 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago

Yes. Which doesn’t problematize most of her other ideas, fortunately.

But my guess is that any false idea could, if not corrected, result in humanity’s demise. So, should any of Rand’s ideas spread to fixation, we could have her to thank for going the way of the dodo.

Of course the fact that this ‘existence as foundationalism’ idea does not problematize her other ideas goes both ways - opponents of Objectivism cannot appeal to that idea as a wholesale refutation of Objectivism.

(Logan Chipkin)

#520 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · revision of #519

Yes. Which doesn’t problematize most of her other ideas, fortunately.

But my guess is that any false idea could, if not corrected, result in humanity’s demise. So, should all of Rand’s ideas spread to fixation, we could have her to thank for going the way of the dodo.

Of course the fact that this ‘exist as foundationalism’ idea does not problematize her other ideas goes both ways - opponents of Objectivism cannot appeal to that idea as a wholesale refutation of Objectivism.

(Logan Chipkin)

#519 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago

Sounds like she treats existence as an ultimate bedrock. Foundationalism.

#518 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · CriticismCriticized2 criticim(s)

I disagree. Existence is something to be explained.

(Logan Chipkin)

#517 · Dennis HackethalOP, 10 months ago · Criticism