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Falling asleep has been a lifelong challenge for me. I suspect there is a "preference fight" going on, among other things, keeping my thoughts highly active.

#5201​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 1 month ago

The capital a business receives from a buyer is feedback that is non-specific to the content of the product or the business which produced it. It's not knowledge bearing. It's a fungible, universal form of feedback, like energy -- and like the number of instances of a replicator..?

#5193​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 1 month ago

The appropriate term is range, not codomain. Correcting that and the redundancy per #5189: A program's reach is the intersection of its range and the solutions to current problems.

#5192​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 1 month ago​·​Criticism

Fun question. Say the reach of a program is the set of all problems it can solve or help solve (whether anyone knows, or whether the problems exist yet). All of that program's possible outputs together comprise the implication space -- it sounds like "range" is the actual term. The instantiation of each item in the range is an occurrence of my "inferential novelty". The range is implicit in a program when it is created, but not all of that output will help solve problems. The program's reach is the subset that does.

#5190​·​Tyler MillsOP revised about 1 month ago​·​Original #5179

I think all problems are known, so we can just say "solutions to problems."
A problem is a conflict between theories, meaning it relates to knowledge currently instantiated.

#5189​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 1 month ago

I'm on PC, and alt+shift+hyphen does not work—but alt+0151 on numpad does... which is a very Windows way to do it, but I'll take it.

#5188​·​Tyler Mills, about 1 month ago

But then there would need to be a preprogrammed dogmatic program at the bottom. (Or would there..?)

#5187​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 1 month ago​·​Criticism

This framing seems good, sure. So what does "critical" really mean?
Does it mean: "Can change an existing thing"..? But that criticism program is dogmatic w.r.t. itself, isn't it? This is the whole question, here (or I'm confused), in your terms:
Can criticism, the variation of a dogmatic program, only happen at the hands of another dogmatic program? There's only "externally facing" criticism..? There are no critical programs? Only dogmatic ones criticizing other dogmatic ones.

#5186​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 1 month ago​·​Criticized1

So reach should only ever be invoked with respect to existing knowledge? So a program's reach is the intersection of its codomain and the solutions to known problems.

#5182​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticized1

But this depends on what a "problem" is; any output will be the solution to some problem, somewhere, so all programs would have unlimited reach.

#5181​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticism

Maybe this definition accommodates both the multiversal and atemporal aspects of reality: a program's reach is the set of its outputs that solve problems in any universe (past, present or adjacent).

#5180​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticized1

Fun question. Say the reach of a program is the set of all problems it can solve or help solve (whether anyone knows, or whether the problems exist yet). All of that program's possible outputs together comprise the implication space -- it sounds like "codomain" is actual term. The instantiation of each item in the codomain is an occurrence of my "inferential novelty". The codomain is implicit in a program when it is created, but not all of that output will help solve problems. The program's reach is the subset that does.

#5179​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticized1

I've been thinking of death as the loss of an instance of an idea from the soup. Part of what I'm curious about here is the epistemic difference between deaths of instances, and deaths of the whole lineage (which seems like a "refutation" in a different, more meaningful sense). See #5167.

#5168​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticism

By "weight" I meant that there being fewer instances of an idea (or less causal power, as you propose), doesn't actually criticize anything (content-wise), until the idea drops to zero (at which point, that idea is gone, and the knowledge content in the system has meaningfully changed -- epistemically changed...). Extinction (death of all instances -- and alleles..?) does seem like a refutation of the idea/gene.

This is the same as in an economy, seems to me. Maybe part of what can be clarified in this discussion will be these different modes of criticism. Please see #5133 and related.

#5167​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 2 months ago

Does not happen? With unlimited resources, why can't it? Competition will not always prevent it, will it?

#5166​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticism

But couldn't scarcity of resources be part of the underlying mechanism? We wouldn't want to say, "assume no speed limit to mass, because we want the underlying necessity of the mechanism of gravity." But the scarcity of speed is integral to the mechanism.

no scarcity for idea resources

"Idea resources" are computational resources, which are always scarce. Even with universality (modulo resources), the limits of the resources must have some effects on the evolution, I would think. Some developmental paths cannot be taken.

#5165​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticism

I don't think so; just having a Wall of posts on my profile is fine, no funny business. Here I was only hoping to delete an accidental mis-post. Maybe allowing deletion of exact duplicates with no parents is reasonable? But this is just a cleanliness/organizational thing, and kind of a fluke, probably not an issue worth spending much time on. (But I stand by #5143, and regardless of the size of the revision. Seems cleaner to me to only show the latest version, no diff.)

#5164​·​Tyler Mills, about 2 months ago​·​Criticized1

But sometimes revisions can be substantive, and OP could defend against one version, and in that case it should count toward the battle-tested badge!

#5150​·​Tyler Mills revised about 2 months ago​·​Original #5149​·​Criticism

But sometimes revisions can be substantive, and OP could defend against one version, and in that case it should count to the battle-tested badge!

#5149​·​Tyler Mills, about 2 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

I question whether previous versions of a criticism should contribute to the battle-tested count, as they do currently. Someone can make a spelling correction to the criticism, which creates the "supersedes" criticism of that previous version of the criticism, and that then contributes to the battle-tested count. This seems wrong, since that counter-criticism is not substantive, and even if it were, OP only generally responds to the latest version of a criticism (may not even have known about previous versions; all of this happened in: https://veritula.com/ideas/5089-knowledge-growth-such-as-in-genes-in-the-biospher).

#5148​·​Tyler Mills, about 2 months ago​·​Criticized2

Okay to allow for posts that have no comments or criticisms? Or only for posts on one's profile (perhaps also meeting that criterion)?

#5147​·​Tyler Mills, about 2 months ago​·​CriticismCriticized1

Deleting posts can really mess up the continuity of discussions, and allow for dishonesty.

#5146​·​Tyler Mills, about 2 months ago​·​Criticism

No way to delete posts. Posted same thing twice by mistake (unexpected Chrome behavior). Choices are to leave the duplicate, which seems inelegant, or to revise it into another whole post, which I did, but that contributed to the issue in #5143 (creates an unclear green and red update post).

#5145​·​Tyler Mills, about 2 months ago​·​Criticized3

My profile shows my revision to #5126 under Wall and under Activity, but not the post itself under the Wall. The revision is a jumble of red and green highlighted text (in this case, because the revision was significant), hard to read. Wall should only show latest versions of posts, not edits to them. Edits should go under Activity. And/or have the previous post versions viewable with the little arrows, as usual (and as done in the idea-focused view, after you click on the idea itself). Always show latest versions of ideas on the Wall so it's clear and easy to read.

#5143​·​Tyler Mills, about 2 months ago

The change in population of a replicator is non-specific to its content?

#5140​·​Tyler MillsOP, about 2 months ago​·​Criticism