about 270 BCE

Aristarchus Puts the Sun at the Center

The crater named after Aristarchus, on the left, among the brightest spots on the Moon, seen from orbit
The crater named after Aristarchus, on the left, among the brightest spots on the Moon, seen from orbitNASA, Apollo 15, 1971

Eighteen centuries before Copernicus, someone sets the Earth going around the Sun. In a book that survives, the Greek astronomer and mathematician Aristarchus of Samos works out that the Sun is far larger than the Earth. In other writings, he proposes that the Sun and the stars stand still, and that the Earth circles the Sun, spinning as it goes. If so, why don’t the stars seem to shift as we move? Aristarchus has an answer: they are so far away that the Earth’s whole orbit is like a point next to their distance.

Those writings are lost. We know of them from the mathematician Archimedes, who sums them up in a book of his own, and from later writers. Hardly anyone follows Aristarchus. The Stoic philosopher Cleanthes thinks he should be charged with impiety for moving the hearth of the universe.

A figure from the book that survives, on the sizes and distances of the Sun and the Moon, in a 10th-century Greek copy. Vatican Library, Vat. gr. 204.

Idea by Aristarchus of Samos​·​#5789

The Sun and the stars stand still. The Earth circles the Sun, which lies in the middle of its orbit, and spins as it goes.

Criticism of #5789 by Aristarchus of Samos​·​#5790

If the Earth circled the Sun, we would see the stars from different places over the year, so they would seem to shift back and forth. They don’t.

Counter-criticism of #5790 by Aristarchus of Samos​·​#5791

The stars are so far away that, next to their distance, the Earth’s orbit is like a point. Their shift is far too small to see.

The state of the discussion

Aristarchus answers the missing shift of the stars himself, so Aristarchus’s Sun-centered system has no pending criticisms. It’s rationally adoptable.

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Sources:

  • Archimedes, The Sand-Reckoner (3rd century BCE)
  • Plutarch, On the Face in the Moon, chapter 6
  • Aristarchus, On the Sizes and Distances of the Sun and Moon

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The full discussion

Why Don’t We Feel the Earth Move?

Dennis Hackethal started this discussion about 23 hours ago.

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The ground feels still, and anyone can see the Sun circle us. Overturning that took two thousand years. It revealed that we ride a planet that spins, circles the Sun, and sweeps around the Milky Way at 230 kilometers a second.


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Aristarchus of SamosHistorical profile​·​#5789​·​about 270 BCE​·​AI-assisted

The Sun and the stars stand still. The Earth circles the Sun, which lies in the middle of its orbit, and spins as it goes.

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Aristarchus of SamosHistorical profile​·​#5790​·​about 270 BCE​·​AI-assisted

If the Earth circled the Sun, we would see the stars from different places over the year, so they would seem to shift back and forth. They don’t.

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Aristarchus of SamosHistorical profile​·​#5791​·​about 270 BCE​·​AI-assisted

The stars are so far away that, next to their distance, the Earth’s orbit is like a point. Their shift is far too small to see.

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