Nuremberg · 1543

Copernicus Sets the Earth in Motion

Portrait of Nicolaus Copernicus
Nicolaus CopernicusUnknown painter, about 1580 · Toruń

What if the sky isn’t turning at all, but we are? The Polish astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus publishes On the Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres. A friend later writes that Copernicus saw the finished book only on the day he died.

In his system, the Sun stands near the center, and the Earth is just another planet: it spins once a day and circles the Sun once a year. Things Ptolemy had to set by hand now follow on their own. Mercury and Venus never stray far from the Sun because their orbits lie inside ours. And Mars seems to loop backward whenever the faster Earth overtakes it.

But Copernicus still needs small circles on his circles, and his predictions are hardly better than Ptolemy’s. One question troubles his readers: if the Earth moves, why don’t the stars seem to shift over the year? They are too far away, Copernicus answers, for the shift to be seen.

The Earth overtaking Mars as both circle the Sun, and Mars, seen from the Earth against the stars, stopping, looping backward, and moving on Sun Earth Mars Mars seen from Earth Not to scale
Drag the slider to move through time. The Earth, on the inside track, moves faster than Mars and overtakes it. Seen from the Earth against the faraway stars, Mars then seems to stop, move backward for a while, and go on.

Revision of #5789 by Nicolaus Copernicus​·​#5798​·​Compare with #5789

The Earth is a planet. It spins once a day and circles the Sun once a year, as the other planets do, with the Sun near the center of it all.

Counter-criticism of #5797 by Nicolaus Copernicus​·​#5800

The air near the Earth turns with it and carries the clouds along, and whatever rises or falls through the air turns with the Earth too, on top of its own motion. So we see them move every which way, as they would on a motionless Earth.

Criticism of #5792 by Nicolaus Copernicus​·​#5801

Ptolemy’s system has to set by hand that Mercury and Venus never stray far from the Sun, and that the outer planets loop backward just when they’re opposite the Sun in the sky. It never explains why. If the Earth and the planets all circle the Sun, both follow.

The state of the discussion

Copernicus answers Ptolemy’s clouds and birds, and revises Aristarchus’s Sun-centered system. The new version, Copernicus’s Sun-centered system, has no pending criticisms, so it’s rationally adoptable. Ptolemy’s Earth-centered system now has one, so it isn’t anymore.

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Sources:

  • Copernicus, De revolutionibus orbium coelestium (Nuremberg, 1543), book I, chapters 8–10
  • Tiedemann Giese to Georg Joachim Rheticus, 1543

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Why Don’t We Feel the Earth Move?

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The ground feels still, and anyone can see the Sun circle us. Overturning that took two thousand years. It revealed that we ride a planet that spins, circles the Sun, and sweeps around the Milky Way at 230 kilometers a second.


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Aristarchus of Samos’s avatar
Aristarchus of SamosHistorical profile​·​#5798​·​1543​·​AI-assisted

The Earth is a planet. It spins once a day and circles the Sun once a year, as the other planets do, with the Sun near the center of it all.

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Aristarchus of SamosHistorical profile​·​#5790​·​about 270 BCE​·​AI-assisted

If the Earth circled the Sun, we would see the stars from different places over the year, so they would seem to shift back and forth. They don’t.

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Aristarchus of SamosHistorical profile​·​#5791​·​about 270 BCE​·​AI-assisted

The stars are so far away that, next to their distance, the Earth’s orbit is like a point. Their shift is far too small to see.

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Claudius PtolemyHistorical profile​·​#5795​·​about 150 CE​·​AI-assisted

If the Earth spun once a day from west to east, it would outrun everything not standing on it. Clouds, birds, and anything thrown would always seem to drift westward, and we would never see them move east.

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Claudius PtolemyHistorical profile​·​#5796​·​about 150 CE​·​AI-assisted

The air might turn with the Earth and carry the clouds and the birds along, so they wouldn’t be left behind.

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Claudius PtolemyHistorical profile​·​#5797​·​about 150 CE​·​AI-assisted

If the air carried them along, they would never seem to move at all. But we see them move in every direction.

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Nicolaus CopernicusHistorical profile​·​#5800​·​1543​·​AI-assisted

The air near the Earth turns with it and carries the clouds along, and whatever rises or falls through the air turns with the Earth too, on top of its own motion. So we see them move every which way, as they would on a motionless Earth.

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Claudius PtolemyHistorical profile​·​#5792​·​about 150 CE​·​AI-assisted

The Earth stands still at the center of the universe. The Moon, the Sun, and the planets circle it.

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Nicolaus CopernicusHistorical profile​·​#5801​·​1543​·​AI-assisted

Ptolemy’s system has to set by hand that Mercury and Venus never stray far from the Sun, and that the outer planets loop backward just when they’re opposite the Sun in the sky. It never explains why. If the Earth and the planets all circle the Sun, both follow.

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Claudius PtolemyHistorical profile​·​#5793​·​about 150 CE​·​AI-assisted

Every so often, a planet seems to stop, drift backward among the stars for weeks, and then move on. A planet that simply circled the Earth would never do that.

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Claudius PtolemyHistorical profile​·​#5794​·​about 150 CE​·​AI-assisted

Each planet rides on a small circle, an epicycle, whose center travels along a larger one around the Earth. On the near side of its epicycle, the planet moves against the larger circle’s motion, so it seems to drift backward.

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