Hven, Denmark · 1588

Tycho Finds No Shift in the Stars

Portrait of Tycho Brahe
Tycho BraheEngraving by Jacques de Gheyn II

The sharpest eyes of the age can’t find the Earth’s motion. The Danish astronomer Tycho Brahe measures the sky from his observatory on the island of Hven, with instruments more precise than any before, good to about a minute of arc, a 60th of a degree. If the Earth circled the Sun, the stars should seem to shift a little over the year, as we see them from different sides of our orbit. Tycho sees no such shift.

So he builds a system of his own and publishes it in 1588: the planets circle the Sun, but the Sun, carrying them along, circles a motionless Earth. It explains everything Copernicus’s system does, without moving the Earth. In a letter the next year to the German astronomer Christoph Rothmann, a follower of Copernicus, Tycho spells out why a moving Earth makes no sense to him.

Tycho’s system: the Earth stands still at the center, the Sun circles it once a year, and the planets circle the Sun, carried along with it; Mars’s circle crosses the Sun’s path Earth Sun Mercury Venus Mars Jupiter Saturn Simplified, not to scale
Drag the slider to move through two years. The Earth stands still. The Sun circles it once a year and carries the planets along, each circling the Sun. Mars’s circle crosses the Sun’s path, which Tycho saw as no absurdity: the comet of 1577 had shown him that no solid spheres carry the planets.

Revision of #5792 by Tycho Brahe​·​#5802​·​Compare with #5792

The Earth stands still at the center. The Moon and the Sun circle it, and the other planets circle the Sun. This explains everything Copernicus’s system does without moving the Earth.

Counter-criticism of #5791 by Tycho Brahe​·​#5803

Even my instruments, precise to a minute of arc, show no shift of the stars. So they would have to be at least 700 times farther from the Sun than Saturn is, leaving an absurd empty gap in between.

Criticism of #5798 by Tycho Brahe​·​#5804

If the Earth spun from west to east, a cannonball fired eastward would fly a different distance than one fired westward with the same force. I’m sure both would fly equally far, so the Earth doesn’t spin.

The state of the discussion

At this point, Copernicus’s Sun-centered system has two pending criticisms, so it isn’t rationally adoptable anymore. Tycho revises Ptolemy’s Earth-centered system, and the new version, Tycho’s system, has none, so it’s rationally adoptable.

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Sources:

  • Tycho Brahe, De mundi aetherei recentioribus phaenomenis (Uraniborg, 1588), chapter 8
  • Tycho Brahe to Christoph Rothmann, November 24, 1589, in Epistolae astronomicae (Uraniborg, 1596)

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Why Don’t We Feel the Earth Move?

Dennis Hackethal started this discussion 1 day ago.

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The ground feels still, and anyone can see the Sun circle us. Overturning that took two thousand years. It revealed that we ride a planet that spins, circles the Sun, and sweeps around the Milky Way at 230 kilometers a second.


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Aristarchus of SamosHistorical profile​·​#5798​·​1543​·​AI-assisted

The Earth is a planet. It spins once a day and circles the Sun once a year, as the other planets do, with the Sun near the center of it all.

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Aristarchus of SamosHistorical profile​·​#5790​·​about 270 BCE​·​AI-assisted

If the Earth circled the Sun, we would see the stars from different places over the year, so they would seem to shift back and forth. They don’t.

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Aristarchus of SamosHistorical profile​·​#5791​·​about 270 BCE​·​AI-assisted

The stars are so far away that, next to their distance, the Earth’s orbit is like a point. Their shift is far too small to see.

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Tycho BraheHistorical profile​·​#5803​·​1588​·​AI-assisted

Even my instruments, precise to a minute of arc, show no shift of the stars. So they would have to be at least 700 times farther from the Sun than Saturn is, leaving an absurd empty gap in between.

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Tycho BraheHistorical profile​·​#5804​·​1588​·​AI-assisted

If the Earth spun from west to east, a cannonball fired eastward would fly a different distance than one fired westward with the same force. I’m sure both would fly equally far, so the Earth doesn’t spin.

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Claudius PtolemyHistorical profile​·​#5795​·​about 150 CE​·​AI-assisted

If the Earth spun once a day from west to east, it would outrun everything not standing on it. Clouds, birds, and anything thrown would always seem to drift westward, and we would never see them move east.

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Claudius PtolemyHistorical profile​·​#5796​·​about 150 CE​·​AI-assisted

The air might turn with the Earth and carry the clouds and the birds along, so they wouldn’t be left behind.

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Claudius PtolemyHistorical profile​·​#5797​·​about 150 CE​·​AI-assisted

If the air carried them along, they would never seem to move at all. But we see them move in every direction.

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Nicolaus CopernicusHistorical profile​·​#5800​·​1543​·​AI-assisted

The air near the Earth turns with it and carries the clouds along, and whatever rises or falls through the air turns with the Earth too, on top of its own motion. So we see them move every which way, as they would on a motionless Earth.

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Claudius PtolemyHistorical profile​·​#5802​·​1588​·​AI-assisted
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The Earth stands still at the center. The Moon and the Sun circle it, and the other planets circle the Sun. This explains everything Copernicus’s system does without moving the Earth.

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